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2 years ago ::
Sep 05, 2011 - 8:23PM
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With the sole exception of the ridiculousness that is the rituals, I will admit, man, the char op board is here to help you with rules. If you want role playing magic, you may need to go to char development, they're more about the creativity bent on tricky situations. No offense.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 05, 2011 - 8:27PM
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it seems that you want to cure blindness without using items, feats, paragon paths, epic destinies or rituals
i think your only solution is to seek out some super awsome healer to get them put back in
or find a gnome mechanic who can make some magic machine eyes for you
or get telepathy somehow and convince your DM you can "see" the beings around you, the grass, the trees, the enemies etc etc etc jedi hogwash
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2 years ago ::
Sep 05, 2011 - 9:15PM
#73
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People that are bashing him or his DM saying this is not RAW is completly wrong.
You are forgetting that its RAW for a DM to create his own monsters and enemies. The book have rules for that, and enable the DM to create different powers for his monsters, based but not necessarely equal to the ones that already exist.
If DM makes a monster that have an attack that says " Hit: The target is blinded. No effect can remove this blindness." Its just that.
The character is blinded and nothing can bring his sight back.
He needs something to not receive the blindness penalties, wille staying blinded because it cannot be removed.
Now to OP: Sorry but there is no way with powers+feats to deal with blind condition in a paladin.
You will need to talk with your DM, because the rules cannot 100% help you.
The best you can have is no penalty for melee attacks, and no -10 to perception via both blindifighting feats.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 05, 2011 - 9:31PM
#74
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People that are bashing him or his DM saying this is not RAW is completly wrong.
You are forgetting that its RAW for a DM to create his own monsters and enemies. The book have rules for that, and enable the DM to create different powers for his monsters, based but not necessarely equal to the ones that already exist.
That'd be Rule 0. Reality check: Rule 0 does not exist in 4e, in any book. Indeed in the DMG the only suggestion even close to Rule 0 is that if a situation arises where there is disagreement the DM ought to ask the players what they think and go with the majority.
So yeah, his DM is wrong by RAW and it is a houserule. Now I don't think anyone is saying DMs should never houserule (though many people have said that houseruling incompetently and without understanding is dangerous, shouldn't be done, and this falls squarely into that category and they are right) but that the solution to a poor houserule is for the DM to fix it, not to work around it when the things already in place to deal with it have been rejected out of hand by the same DM.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 05, 2011 - 11:32PM
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I'm not sure on his reasoning. The feat requires that the familiar be in Passive Mode to see through its eyes.
Exactly. While in passive mode, familiars don't have eyes. It's nice that you can see through them, but there aren't any. It sounds to me that they were just being cute with putting fluff into the feat descriptions that made no sense.
As for the Vecna analogy; too bad, so sad, NPCs don't follow PC rules. Not to mention that conditions inflicted by a Deity don't follow the normal rules either.
As for "the DM can make his own rules", sure. But if he shafts the player then he shouldn't be surprised if this pisses off said player. A blind character is almost unplayable in combat due to the massive penalties, which is just spoiling someone's fun for no reason.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 05, 2011 - 11:34PM
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While in passive mode, familiars don't have eyes.
Could you tell me where you're getting this from? Because I don't see anything to that effect written anywhere.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 05, 2011 - 11:44PM
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Hm, I was going off of the "springs to life" along with examples of the familiars being non-living while not active. But they do also describe familiars that are simply sitting on your shoulder...
You do still take a -10 penalty to Perception though.
I'm not sure if this would be legal though. By 4e rules, "It does what it says", and it says nowhere that the Feat makes you immune to being Blinded, which you'd expect it to say considering it's just a Feat and being immune to Blinded + getting a free new Sense is really powerful for a Feat.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 05, 2011 - 11:50PM
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Hm, I was going off of the "springs to life" along with examples of the familiars being non-living while not active. But they do also describe familiars that are simply sitting on your shoulder...
You do still take a -10 penalty to Perception though.
I'm not sure if this would be legal though. By 4e rules, "It does what it says", and it says nowhere that the Feat makes you immune to being Blinded, which you'd expect it to say considering it's just a Feat and being immune to Blinded + getting a free new Sense is really powerful for a Feat.
blindsight and tremorsence have there own rules, I am not sure if you would still have the preception penalty or not but within 5 squares you would be able to see
Insulting someones grammar on a forum is like losing to someone in a drag race and saying they were cheating by having racing stripes.
Not only do the two things not relate to each other (the logic behind the person's position, and their grammar) but you sound like an idiot for saying it (and you should, because its really stupid )
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2 years ago ::
Sep 06, 2011 - 12:01AM
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I'm not sure on his reasoning. The feat requires that the familiar be in Passive Mode to see through its eyes.
Exactly. While in passive mode, familiars don't have eyes. It's nice that you can see through them, but there aren't any.
There is nothing in the text to suggest that familiars lose their eyes when they are in passive mode. Passive mode means the familiar isn't doing anything and can't be affected by combat. That's it. It still has eyes. It doesn't die or disappear or become inanimate or lose its body parts.
If the reason he can't see is because he has no eyes, then if he can see using the eyes of another creature, presumably his vision would be restored.
It sounds to me that they were just being cute with putting fluff into the feat descriptions that made no sense.
Your contention makes no sense. Why do you believe they lose their eyes when they switch to Passive mode?
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2 years ago ::
Sep 06, 2011 - 12:25AM
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I accept that the familiar still has eyes. I read the part that explained how a passive familiar would turn to stone, vanish in a puff of smoke or form into a tattoo. I missed the one where it said that by default it's just sitting on your shoulder.
However I still don't see the Feat making you immune to Blind, since that's a mechanical condition and it doesn't say anything about it. Considering how powerful immunity to Blind is, I can't imagine a simple feat giving that and a possibly very strong extra sense to boot.
Just giving out Blindsight 5 for basically 2 Feats is bordering on the overpowered for me, really. Considering that kind of thing normally only comes as part of a few Epic Destinies.
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