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2 years ago ::
Aug 22, 2011 - 9:04PM
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Apr 27, 2006
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Dungeon 193
Monster Manual Update: Kuo-Toa and Sahuaginby Logan Bonner
This article series revisits monsters from the Monster Manual. This iteration of the article includes kuo-toa and sahuagin. Talk about this article here. 
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2 years ago ::
Aug 22, 2011 - 9:34PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 23, 2005
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What no Blibdoolpoolp? Enjoyed the new fluff, especially the re-introduction of the malenti. I'm glad to see some revised aquatic races since there's currently a dearth of them in 4e.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 23, 2011 - 9:25AM
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Date Joined:
Sep 17, 2008
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I've always loved Kua-Toa - but don't they change color depending on their mood? That was always one of my favorite aspects. "The Kua-Toa is angry at you! His scales turn a deep brown color!"
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2 years ago ::
Aug 23, 2011 - 10:28AM
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Sep 20, 2008
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The development team seems to be twisting in circles over introducing old gods into the new cosmogony. This is strange to me since they have two great places for "weird/evil" powers can come from. Blidoolpoolp with her strange "notquitecthullu" look would be such a great weird power of the far realm. Sekolah meanwhile, imho, should have been retrodemonized.
They've introduced the idea of demon cults amongst monsters, I think they should keep that idea up, and have Sekolah join Baphomet, and Yeenoghu, as a Demon Prince of the Abyss. Given that the Sahaugin have a history with the sea elves I think Sekolah as an Exarch to Lolth or Gruumsh would have ramped up their evil, as opposed to following the merely unaligned Melora. Especially since when they reintroduce Aquatic Elves they might want to make them servants of Melora. Will Deep Sashelas be an exarch of Melora too?
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2 years ago ::
Aug 23, 2011 - 3:03PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 28, 2004
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Why not, if the concept of Exarches exist also in POL? It's what I do, and a bit what is it for - more minor gods. Who can be in real life myths a HUGE LOT.
Look at Hinduism, the many branches of it, an HUGE number of small gods.. It's not bad. Close to real world mythologies and religions.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 23, 2011 - 3:39PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 20, 2008
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Well I don't know a lot about Hinduism, but an exarch would be like Garuda or Hanuman? For my more familiar realm, maybe a better analogue would be in Greek mythology where Iris or Eileithyia would be Exarchs of Hera. A helper, messenger, mercenary, etc.
If Sekolah is supposed to be a threat, in my world he would have to be a Demon Prince because it gives an autonomy to him and his own goals, as opposed to being Melora's lacky. It just feels weird to me that the heroes would start their adventure in a sea side village with Halflings dancing in prasie to Melora, only to then have to fight priests of her lapdog. I admit it's a little overdone, but Sekolah trying to overthrow Melora as Supreme power of the seas, is a lot more material for me to work with, instead of the Sekolah who takes out Melora's trash, and maybe tries to kill Sea Elves, which his boss may or may not like.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 23, 2011 - 3:43PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 28, 2004
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An example - fictional world - is in FR, from old times.. Talos and his gods of destructions.. it is kinda the idea of Exarches, 20 years ago.
Also, non-Gods have exarches too I heard... It's how I rule also.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 23, 2011 - 3:44PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 20, 2008
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Blipdoolpoolp should totally be a Far Realm entity however, and if they ever make a Heroes of the Ocean's Depths, there should be psionic and star pact feats to support.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 23, 2011 - 3:53PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 28, 2004
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Eh, not a bad idea, this have indeed a Chthulhuoid feel - I could steal this.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 23, 2011 - 4:04PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 20, 2008
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I thought the Kuo-Toa were always well known to be adapted straight from The Shadow Over Innsmouth, but seperated from Dagon to not be too literal.
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