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2 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2011 - 1:48PM #21
GelatinousOctahedron
Date Joined: Jun 30, 2008
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I replaced my old ranger hybrid with a better one by sagaciousatom and my own half-elf bow cleric.

Edit: I also added a "no rolls" zealot build earlier.  Its more of a list of good cleric powers that don't require attack rolls, but for the most part it works pretty well and can easily be adjusted.  It works well for higher level PCs with races that don't get a strength or wisdom bonus and can include pacifist healer too.  And it is a good starting point for hybrids with a lazy shaman or warlord.
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2011 - 2:22PM #22
Botanicus
Date Joined: Aug 20, 2007
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For the Deva builds, like Laser Cleric 1 - why not take Battle Intuition over Battlewise?
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2011 - 2:25PM #23
GelatinousOctahedron
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good catch.  I have that as skyblue in my handbook, but forgot about it.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 13, 2011 - 9:50PM #24
Bronne
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Just a quick question, how does Throw and Stab work with just a Hungry Great Spear (for the Thri-Kreen Cleric/Ranger hybrid)? Wouldn't that mean that you toss the spear and then have nothing to hit the Righteous Brand with?
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 14, 2011 - 3:08AM #25
rjsilverthorn
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Sep 13, 2011 -- 9:50PM, Bronne wrote:

Just a quick question, how does Throw and Stab work with just a Hungry Great Spear (for the Thri-Kreen Cleric/Ranger hybrid)? Wouldn't that mean that you toss the spear and then have nothing to hit the Righteous Brand with?




Magic thrown weapons automatically return.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 14, 2011 - 5:19PM #26
Bronne
Date Joined: Mar 9, 2011
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Sep 14, 2011 -- 3:08AM, rjsilverthorn wrote:

Sep 13, 2011 -- 9:50PM, Bronne wrote:

Just a quick question, how does Throw and Stab work with just a Hungry Great Spear (for the Thri-Kreen Cleric/Ranger hybrid)? Wouldn't that mean that you toss the spear and then have nothing to hit the Righteous Brand with?




Magic thrown weapons automatically return.


Ah ha. Thank you!

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2011 - 8:27AM #27
GelatinousOctahedron
Date Joined: Jun 30, 2008
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A couple of weeks ago I put up a corellon warpriest build:

Here is a Deva mc Warlock Radiant Servant I am working on.  In paragon whenever he makes a divine radiant encounter attack he gets to teleport at least 1 square, more depending on feats and equipment so about 5 mid paragon.  If he hits with any radiant power he gets to make a save and gets con mod in temp hitpoints.  Should be very hard to kill or pin down, while putting out good damage and decent leading.  Nothing too original, but would play different from most other warpriests.

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Race Deva
Starting Stats 10 16 8 13 18 13
Corellon Warpriest/Radiant Servant/Destined Scion
Theme: Ordained Priest (Order Adept also works)
Background: Gritty Sargent (rapier proficiency)

Feats:
1 Versatile Expertise
2 Radiant Recovery
4 Pact Initiate (Star Pact)
6 Mark of Healing
8 Starfire Womb
10 Improved Defenses
11 Battlewise
12 Arcane Familiar (Dimensional Pet)
14 Superior Will
16 Shielding Word
18 Gambler's Word
20 Armored By Faith
21 Supreme Healer
22 Divine Mastery
24 Punishing Radiance
26 Epic Reflexes
28 Radiant Advantage
30 Font of Radiance

Powers
Dailies
1 Moment of Glory
5 Inspire Fervor
9 Blade Barrier
15 Tree of Creation
19 Suprenal Radiance
25 Sacred Word
29 Breath of the Stars

Utiliies
2 Blackened Soul
6 Spirit of Healing
10 Word of Vigor
16 Hallowed Ground
22 Adjure the Chosen

Equipment: Pact Blade or other weapliment. Eladrin Boots. Eladrin Armor. Eladrin Ring of Passage.  Ring of retreat. 

Sticking with a dagger or javelin or using your background for trident also works if you want to do ranged attacks as well.



And after reading the recent ninja article, I wanted to come up with a cleric build that uses the kusari-gama and two weapon opening to trigger extra MBAs when you crit with your various close burst powers.  That didn't really work out, but I did come up with an interesting elf spike chain build instead.

Its a mark of storm/flail expertise reach build that knocks enemies down a lot and it pretty accurate.  It ends up being a fairly high damage multitarget frontline controller.  It also has good perception and stealth, which is a rare combination in a leader.  And in paragon has a speed of 9 without any items.

Sticks primarily with weapon powers and implement powers that don't really matter if you miss so it does not have to have a weapliment or versatile expertise.  It is fairly item independent, but a lightning weapon would let you switch out some powers and something like a disrupting flail would be nice too since it would help you hit with your implement powers.  Big thing he is lacking is save granting so at some point I would switch out one of the at wills for brand of the sun.  Otherwise Awakening Sun is about the only save granting power he has.  I wanted to squeeze bleesing of corellon in there somewhere, but could not think of what I would drop.

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Elf Templar/paragon of victory/Destined Scion 
Battle clerics lore
Starting Stats 10 13 15 8 20 10
Final Stats 12 16 24 10 30 12

Background: Wild Elf
Theme: Hospitaler

Trained Skills: Perception Stealth Religion Heal Insight

At Wills
Storm hammer (retrain at some point for brand of the sun)
Singing strike

1 Ringing blow
1 Nimbus of Holy Shielding (or moment of glory)
2 Shield of Faith
3 Death's Call
5 Inspire Fervor
6 Spirit of Healing
7 Wrathful lightning
9 Blade Barrier
10 Word of Vigor

13 Awakening Sun (or Roar of Thunder)
15 Aura of Astral Radiance
16 Cloak of Courage
17 Winds of Fury
19 Fire Storm

22 Ramparts of Light
23 Thunder of Justice
25 Call the Hungry Ghosts
27 Valorous Charge
29 Astral Storm

Weapon Proficiency Spiked Chain
Mark of Storm
Flail Expertise
Improved Defenses
Monastic Disciple (centered breath)
Storm Sacrifice

Scale Expertise
Fluid Motion
Gamblers Word
Melee Training
Superior Will
Shielding Word

Supreme Healing
Superior Initaitive
Glorious Channeler
Divine Mastery
Epic Fortitude 
Uncanny Dodge



(not sure why this is bolded)
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2 years ago  ::  Oct 29, 2011 - 6:38PM #28
Tech-Priest
Date Joined: Apr 27, 2010
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GelO, I would like to possibly request an updated version of the Ike Turner build, if you've got free time. I can tell you right now, it'll be used ONLY against undead, so anything like Demon/Devilbane isn't needed, at least in my case. I may try to work up a Paladin/Slayer of the Dead as well.

Post on my Undead Apocalypse Op if you get a chance.
RIP George! 4-21-11
RIP Abie! 1-2-13


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The standard d4 is somewhat (SOMEWHAT) rounded on the top, the older models are even flat. The Lego is shaped in such a way that in an emergency, you can use one as a makeshift surgical knife.




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Jan 23, 2013 -- 10:31PM, RedSiegfried wrote:

My wife asked me if her pants made her look fat.  What do you think I said?



Wife: Do these pants make me look fat?

RedSiegfried: I just killed a bunch of orc women and children.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 31, 2011 - 7:07AM #29
GelatinousOctahedron
Date Joined: Jun 30, 2008
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I will work on that in the next day or so.  I haven't really closely looked at that build since the changes in turn undead.

I also added two new builds recently.  One is kind of a novelty build I call the Flying Nun.  A Hengeyokai pacifist cleric that uses a lot of sustainable dailies, summons, and standard action utility powers.  You can fly at will with this build and even though you can't make attacks while flying you can sustain your dailies and use standard action utilities to still be useful.  Its not super optimized, but its a way to use the Hengeyokai racial ability a lot while still being useful.

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Hengeyokai
Miracle Worker
Avatar of Hope
Stats 10 13 16 8 18 14
Final Stats
Battle Clerics Lore
CD Favor of the Gods
CD Healers Mercy
Theme
Background

At will: Saced Flame
At will: Astral Seal
1 Bane
1 Moment of Glory
2 Angelic Witnesses
3 Hymn of Resurgance
5 Consecrated Ground
6 Divine Favor
7 Peacemakers light
9 Blade Barrier
10 Wall of Shields
13 Deadly Lure
15 Tree of Creation
16 Cloak of Courage 
17 Sever the Source
19 Fire Storm
22 Adjure The Chosen
23 Rebuke the Wrathful
25 Sacred Word
27 Healer's Reproof
29 Astral Storm

Heroic Feats
Pacifist Healer
Holy Symbol Expertise
Mark of Healing
Superior Will
Resourceful Leader
Improved Defenses

Paragon
Battlewise
Scale Specialization
Armored by Faith
Shielding Word
Uncanny Dodge
Hope Remains

Epic
Supreme Healer
Glorious Channeler
Beatific Healer
Epic Reflexes
Epic Fortitude
Superior Initiative


The other is El Jefe, a Deva hybrid bard mc druid Heartwarder that has a lot of control through domination and forced movement.  Good enabling through bard powers and cleric powers that provoke OA like cause fear and deadly lure.  Has domination once a day and once an encounter at level 11 with a second encounter domination at level 17, which provides some more OA.  And has more domination in late epic.  Also good ally buffing and movement.

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====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
El Jefe, level 30
Deva, Cleric/Bard, Heartwarder, Reincarnate Champion
Hybrid Cleric Option: Battle Cleric's Lore
Hybrid Bard Option: Hybrid Bard Reflex
Hybrid Talent Option: Bardic Virtue
Bardic Virtue Option: Virtue of Prescience
Epic Vitality Option: Epic Vitality Charisma
Past Spirit Option: Past Spirit (Elf)
Past Spirit Option: Past Spirit (Tiefling)
Akanûl (Akanûl Benefit)
Theme: Noble
 
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
STR 10, CON 14, DEX 12, INT 14, WIS 26, CHA 28
 
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
STR 8, CON 12, DEX 10, INT 12, WIS 16, CHA 16
 
 
AC: 45 Fort: 44 Ref: 41 Will: 47
HP: 171 Surges: 16 Surge Value: 42
 
TRAINED SKILLS
Bluff +33, Insight +32, Intimidate +31, Nature +30, Perception +30
 
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +17, Arcana +20, Athletics +16, Diplomacy +35, Dungeoneering +26, Endurance +18, Heal +26, History +22, Religion +22, Stealth +17, Streetwise +27, Thievery +17
 
POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Noble Utility: Noble Presence
Deva Racial Power: Memory of a Thousand Lifetimes
Cleric Utility: Healing Word
Bard Feature: Majestic Word
Elf Racial Power: Elven Accuracy
Tiefling Racial Power: Infernal Wrath
Bard Attack 1: Staggering Note
Cleric Attack 1: Astral Seal
Bard Utility 2: Moment of Escape
Cleric Utility 6: Bastion of Health
Bard Utility 10: Illusory Erasure
Heartwarder Attack 11: Siren Voice
Heartwarder Utility 12: Sune's Shield
Cleric Utility 16: Hallowed Ground
Druid Attack 17: Infiltrating Drone
Cleric Attack 19: Beacon of Doom
Heartwarder Attack 20: Sune's Kiss
Bard Utility 22: Climactic Chord
Bard Attack 23: Chant of Bad Fortune
Bard Attack 25: Frenzied Rhythm
Reincarnate Champion Utility 26: Swift Reincarnation
Cleric Attack 27: Healer's Reproof
Cleric Attack 29: Enforced Surrender
 
FEATS
Novice Power
Level 1: Hybrid Talent
Level 2: Sentinel Initiate
Level 4: Staff Expertise
Level 6: Superior Implement Training (Accurate staff)
Level 8: Improved Defenses
Level 10: Superior Will
Level 11: Prescient Aid
Level 12: Distant Advantage
Level 14: Battle Intuition
Level 18: Gambler's Word
Level 21: Supreme Healer
Level 21: Divine Mastery
Level 22: Prescient Resurgence
Level 24: Royal Command of Asmodeus
Level 26: Epic Fortitude
Level 28: Quickened Spellcasting
Level 30: Epic Reflexes
 
ITEMS
Adventurer's Kit
Symbol of the Holy Nimbus +1
Bag of Holding
Mesmerizing Harp
Amulet of Seduction +6 x1
Accurate staff of Command +6 x1
Dawn Warrior Titanscale Armor +6 x1
Luminary Ring x1
Ring of Tenacious Will x1
Essence of the Wisp x1
Belt of Vim (paragon tier) x1
Rapidstrike Bracers x1
Gloves of the Healer (epic tier) x1
Sandals of Avandra x1
Symbol of Victory +2
Breakchain Tattoo (epic tier) x1
Solitaire (Cerulean)
Fey Flute
Folding Astral Skiff
====== End ======

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 31, 2011 - 8:25AM #30
Tech-Priest
Date Joined: Apr 27, 2010
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Awesome, thanks, I hope the updated version is as good as the previous one! Also, I like the new builds, very cool concepts & builds. I haven't gotten to really examine the Hengeyokai so I'll have to grab the article and check em out.
RIP George! 4-21-11
RIP Abie! 1-2-13


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May 9, 2013 -- 12:18PM, Tech-Priest wrote:

May 9, 2013 -- 12:12PM, CorranHornIsAwesome wrote:


"You notice a large piece of mold clinging to your toothbrush. What do you do?"

"I cast Fireball."

"I run like hell!




Apr 20, 2013 -- 3:26PM, DaBugbear wrote:


The standard d4 is somewhat (SOMEWHAT) rounded on the top, the older models are even flat. The Lego is shaped in such a way that in an emergency, you can use one as a makeshift surgical knife.




Jan 24, 2013 -- 12:25AM, TheeEnthusiast wrote:

Jan 23, 2013 -- 10:31PM, RedSiegfried wrote:

My wife asked me if her pants made her look fat.  What do you think I said?



Wife: Do these pants make me look fat?

RedSiegfried: I just killed a bunch of orc women and children.

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