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2 years ago ::
Aug 10, 2011 - 4:02PM
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Apr 15, 2006
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One of my players who I got to become a DnD insider just cracked open the character builder and sent me his first toon for up coming campainge I told him anything was allowed within basic house rules that he knows wich are few and far between.Anyways he sends me a War Forged Vampire....call me a harsh DM but to me I dont think that should exist without a small novel for a background.Any opinions or ideas for my players background or how I should handle the issue.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 10, 2011 - 4:33PM
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I don't see why you shouldn't let him do it. Just ask him to explain what in the world is up with his character. There are a lot of really cool ways that it could go. Even the laziest "Neither my character nor I knows why my character has these powers" is practically an invitation to create quite an interesting story arch.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 10, 2011 - 6:54PM
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Mar 31, 2011
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Hmm...that idea is just begging a backstory. Have him sit down and think about WHY his warfoged is a vampire. Is it a 'virus' he caught...he *is* a machine after all. Or maybe he self-installed fangs? Or maybe his creator was a crazy artificer who wanted to make an abomniation so horrible that for it to survive it had to take the life essence from a living being, its 'electrical life' as it were...because vampires in 4ed don't *really* drink blood (not unless you WANT your character to) but they steal/borrow the healing surges of others.
Just have him have fun with it...and make sure he has a good reason as to why his character is the way it is. Don't just say OK and give in...if it's a truely strange character idea, make him put in a little thought behind it.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 10, 2011 - 6:55PM
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Jan 17, 2011
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Here are some background ideas that you could suggest to your player should he not have an idea of one.
- A vampire artificer wanted to get rid of his vampirism by attempting to transfer his consciousness into a warforged body. Part of the magical experiment involved the transfusion of bodily fluids from him to the warforged. The experiment failed, his consciousness was lost but somehow his vampiric qualities manifested in the warforged.
- Alternatively, the experiment succeeded in transferring his consciousness but failed to get rid of the vampire curse. Another side-effect was amnesia and as he was in shock when he awoke and fled his castle, he can't even remember much of that either.
- Or he was the first prototype of a vampire lords special shock troops. These warforged would not be sentient and would drain his enemies blood but not consume it. So that by the end of any battle they would be walking blood banks for him to have. Unfortunately, the prototype became sentient and ran away.
- Or a vampire cult tries to resurrect one of their lost dead ancient lords. The only type of body that could survive the powerful energies of the ritual is a warforged one. However by the end of the ritual, the warforged awakes as a vampire but with no memories of being a vampire lord. Since they failed to bring back their lord, they decided to destroy this abomination (in their eyes) but it mananged to flee and has been on the run since.
You could even have the lord or cult show up occasionally throughout your campaign to either capture or destroy him.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 10, 2011 - 7:04PM
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There's nothing to limit him from doing this in the rules, so at best he should just have a good character concept to go with it. Plus it also gives you carte-blanche to go nuts with other robotic monster enemies. Robot Wearwolves and Digital Spectres for the win 
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2 years ago ::
Aug 10, 2011 - 10:25PM
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First, warforged aren't robots. They're golems. Golems with organic (plant like) insides, metal/stone/wooden skeletal peices and they grow their "metal" shell. I say "metal" because when a warforged dies their exoskeleton can't be salvaged for rare metals.
Since vampires more lifeforce vampires than blood suckers, it's perfectly feasible. Maybe that's how they were created. Maybe he's just cursed. Maybe while walking through the meadow he fell in a pool of shadowstuff and now he has to consume lifeforce to survive.
In short, there's no reason at all not to allow it other than personal bias.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 10, 2011 - 10:34PM
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Aug 19, 2007
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Warforged are living constructs animated by magic. They have organic components.
There's absolutely no reason why the character wasn't just built to be a vampire.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 11, 2011 - 11:41AM
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I never questioned it being allowed I just said it needed a great background to go with it and wanted some ideas. I also never argued over the components or makings of a warforged that flame was from somewhere elese entirely heh
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2 years ago ::
Aug 11, 2011 - 3:51PM
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Aug 16, 2007
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Sorry if I came accross as hostile. I just get frustrated with the people that can't get past warforged are robots thinking.
I guess I have some contention with why you would even ask the question. Let me take a step back and start fresh.
Would you ask the same questions if it was a human/elven/dwarven vampire? If so, then I hope your players come up with a great story and you all have a great game. If not, please ask yourself why are requiring this combination to have one. If you decide you want a backstory (all characters should have a backstory IMO), please don't be overly critical or break out the "no" because it doesn't make sense to you. If thier story is a bit off of how you would like your campaign to work, then work with the player to tweak it until your both satisfied.
Now I have this idea of some diabolical wizard creating hordes of vampire constructs to leach life force from the world and return it to him to fuel his imortality machine.
Happy Gaming.
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2 years ago ::
Aug 11, 2011 - 5:34PM
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Apr 15, 2006
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This community and more particularly this sub-forum is for character development and the breeding of idea's I never questioned myself I questioned my player then the community.WHY I questioned is because maybe someone might have a really good idea for maybe something I could put in a game or an idea my player might like more then his own. Again I came here asking for opinions and I respect yours just don't get too heated over small things.
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