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2 years ago ::
Jul 15, 2011 - 10:40PM
#61
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Date Joined:
Jul 27, 2006
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@Crimson: I don't think it's that bad. There'll be times when you miss by 1, but it won't be very often.
It's certainly not bad enough to avoid certain race/class combos, or blow your whole Point Buy load springing for an 18.
I agree with Khan. I've never seen anyone give a cogent argument as to why its "horrible".
Yes, its of course mechanically weaker than an 18. But if you want to play race x and class y, and you'd have to buy an 18 and you need the points for some other feats ... its not really gonna effect you more than 5% of the time. Thats not that much.
The general guideline is good for those who aren't good at optimizing characters, but like any rule of thumb its not set in stone.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 16, 2011 - 12:46AM
#62
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The reason that you usually want an 18 is not that there's some mystical breakpoint between how often characters with 16s hit and how often characters with 18s hit - it's no different than any other +1 - but because there's very rarely anything you can get with those points that's worth as much as +1 to hit/damage/riders. Exceptions, as noted in this thread, tend to be things like off-statted hybrids (where you're giving up the +1 to hit/damage/riders with some of your powers and features for, presumably, +1 on other stuff) or really MAD builds, particularly those that are accompanied by a race that doesn't get the main stat. (A desire to get HBO right at paragon with a class that doesn't use those stats extensively seems like a pretty common culprit for it, at least experientially, although other weird weapon/build combinations can also make that appealing. A fluffier reason that I've also seen is the desire to start with a particular multiclass feat from the get-go for background reasons.)
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