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2 years ago ::
Jul 12, 2011 - 2:21PM
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while FR still isn't my thing, i much rather the shaken and stirred FR as compared to the non-shaken, non-stirred one.
So with other words: you're still no FR customer and former FR customers are driven away. So what in this situation for WotC?
actually i bought the FR PHB because of the changes. the only other FR thing i bought was an old FR boxset that was 2nd hand. while i'm not a fan of the setting, the changes were enough to draw my interest and i do find the reworked FR more palatable as a player. i'd far rather play in the new FR then the old one at the least. it's still not my preferred cup of tea, but removing the majority pre-existing named NPCs who were the real movers and shakers to focusing more on letting the PCs become the next "named" characters was a good move IMO.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 12, 2011 - 2:52PM
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Oxybe's first post in this thread
Dead on in every regard, Ox.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 12, 2011 - 3:05PM
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2 years ago ::
Jul 12, 2011 - 3:13PM
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Yeah, I used to own the Menzobarrenzan boxed set and, IIRC, it was 95% fluff. Fluff is easy to move from one edition to another. Heck its easy to move from one GAME to another.
I live in Canada, so I can't actually get my hands on that. Wish I could.
I live in Newfoundland, and I have physically seen copies of the old boxed set.
Sorry, but living in Canada is not an excuse for not being able to get pretty much any RPG product. I managed to get a copy of the Eclipse Phase core book before amazon.ca had it listed simply by asking a local dealer to check with his supliers, and that same dealer once showed me a list of what he could get in for L5R and there were boxes there from sets that were nearly 10 years old.
That and ebay shipping costs are not that bad on alot of products, a little more then normally but seeing as it cost me less then $30 to get a copy of the old red box set of ebay last year...
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2 years ago ::
Jul 12, 2011 - 3:24PM
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yeah, i have to agree with sjmcc13. we have 2 copies of the BECMI in my group. i've got the 2nd ed Dark Sun Box Set, this FR Box Set and a 2nd hand copy of Battlesystem... among other things. we also live in Charlottetown, PE where there is only one real RPG game supplier in town, the Comic Hunter (can you guess it's main product?).
3rd ed SRD, character sheets, errata & free modules4th ed test drive - modules, starter rules, premade characters and character builder & character sheet, errata Free maps and portraits, dice, printable graph paper, campaign managing website, image manipulation program + token maker & zone markers"All right, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back. GET MAD! I DON'T WANT YOUR **** LEMONS! WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THESE?! DEMAND TO SEE LIFE'S MANAGER! Make life RUE the day it thought it could give CAVE JOHNSON LEMONS! DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?! I'M THE MAN WHO'S GONNA BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN! WITH THE LEMONS! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that's gonna BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN!" -Cave Johnson, Portal 2
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2 years ago ::
Jul 12, 2011 - 3:25PM
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Ugh is 5th Edition really on the way? I just bought a bunch of this 4th Edition stuff.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 12, 2011 - 3:29PM
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Ugh is 5th Edition really on the way? I just bought a bunch of this 4th Edition stuff.
'On the way' as in 'eventually'? Yes. Every game system puts out new editions periodically.
'On the way' as in 'in development, coming soon'? No, that's just trolls stirring up trouble.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 12, 2011 - 3:38PM
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I feel your pain man, I think they went overboard with the changes.....
a mask everyone has at least two of, one they wear in public and another they wear in private.....
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2 years ago ::
Jul 12, 2011 - 3:46PM
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>mfw OP thinks he can't use is old books in 4e, or in any game he wants for that matter
*snicker*
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2 years ago ::
Jul 12, 2011 - 3:48PM
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I feel your pain man, I think they went overboard with the changes.....
I don't know about you, sfdragon, but personally I am just impressed that someone owned up to being a fan of FR on the General boards. I would have thought that going to a Hunting rally wearing a deer costume would be a safer endeavour!
My approach to the NPCs of previous editions. Spoiler:
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I always saw the High Level NPCs as shepherds of the Realms not its defenders. Making sure that not too many sheep were lost as they milled around (as they are wont to do) and bringing on the young'uns into the job. In that way a shepherd never has time to go and hunt down all of the wolves but is pretty dashed effective at keeping them away from the sheep when they rear their heads. "It was a puzzle why things were always dragged kicking and screaming. No one ever seemed to want to, for example, lead them gently by the hand." - Terry Pratchett
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