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2 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2011 - 8:02AM #31
Teracide
Date Joined: May 7, 2011
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I'd say that too, but it's pretty out there to say that Genasi would be absolutely crazy not to be Warlords either.
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2011 - 8:07AM #32
Gunthar
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Jul 11, 2011 -- 2:30AM, Kurald_Galain wrote:

Jul 10, 2011 -- 7:48PM, Gunthar wrote:

The Cindersoul racial power is nigh awesome also if the DM uses RAW.

Why?

Two words: Death Box


Death boxes aren't RAW. As repeatedly pointed out by adventure authors, death boxes are a misunderstanding on the part of the DM.




The RAW reference is to all damage dice being reduced to 1 so that benefits everyone caught in the blast/burst. There have been times where multiple characters have ended up in said blast pattern, especially with status effects on them, where I've moved in to it in order to mitigate large amounts of damage to less durable allies.

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2011 - 8:43AM #33
d20danko
Date Joined: Oct 12, 2010
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I second Gunthar's bump of Avenger to black.  Avengers need their primary stat a little less than others (due to OoE).  And a Str bump let's you grab Power Attack more easily, which is a fantastic feat for Avengers.
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2011 - 9:10AM #34
zelink551
Date Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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1.I included Whirlwind Genasi, its movement versatility in fantstic
2. items will be in tips and tricks
3. I still think Avenger is purple, given that Pursuit avengers are that much better than Unity or Martyr.
4. I had included the cleric...but had written them down as Genasi Embarassed 
5. Warpriest changed to purple
6. Warlords changed to sky blue to avoid confusion

Will ultimately include all PPs, but wanted to include the ones I would see people using the most initially
I personally don't like Elemental Tempest. It's essentially replaced by a feat. Tempest lord is rather weak as a level 16 sixteen feature. Only the AP feature I like. The powers are subpar. I would rate it purple at best 
The Elemental Man (or Woman): A Genasi Handbook

The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

That's right. Rules According to Zelink!

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2011 - 9:27AM #35
Jay_Ibero_911
Date Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Desert's Voice has gotta be blue or even light blue for Windsoul Genasi, making Windwalker at-will at 16th level. With all the stuff that can trigger off using it...

Swift Winds: No more OA's for movement.
Elemental Empowerment: At-will arcane attack+damage bump.
Elemental Blessing: At-will auto temps for you or an ally.
Primordial Surge or the slightly stronger (with extra manifestation) Manifest Healing: Significant at-will auto temps for you.
Buffeting Winds: Rearrange marked enemies as you please.
Hunter of Wind and Wave: Make that a fly 10 at-will move action.
Speed of Sea and Sky: Give allies a speed boost when you move.

Plus the powers while not amazing, are still decent. Just have to watch out for your allies. And the free extra desert racial power is nice, which will get the 16th level bonus too.
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2011 - 9:55AM #36
zelink551
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Jul 10, 2011 -- 9:12AM, zelink551 wrote:

Reserved
PPs
Element Unchained
Desert's Voice
Wildfire Genasi
Scion of Absence
Whirlwind Genasi
Elemental Tempest
Steelsky Liberator
Soul of Erosion

(Those are the only Genasi related PPs I find worthy of black or higher. If anyone has any others they believe are up to this level, I will consider including them)
Feats
Eyes of Dying Light (req. Cindersoul)-Darkvision
Elemental Recovery (req. Psionic class)-not worth a feat, esp for that cost

We have 58 Genasi feats. Certainly some are warranting attention, but when I undertake this I'll rate black or higher.




The Elemental Man (or Woman): A Genasi Handbook

The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

That's right. Rules According to Zelink!

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http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/28317541/Barfcheeze_help?pg=1

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2011 - 10:24AM #37
Gunthar
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Jul 11, 2011 -- 9:10AM, zelink551 wrote:


Will ultimately include all PPs, but wanted to include the ones I would see people using the most initially
I personally don't like Elemental Tempest. It's essentially replaced by a feat. Tempest lord is rather weak as a level 16 sixteen feature. Only the AP feature I like. The powers are subpar. I would rate it purple at best 




I can see your point, and I used to feel the same way until I saw a couple of things.
1. It's an Epic feat for dual manifestation
2. Tempest Lord takes Versatile Resistance, etc. right to the sweet spot of ongoing damage against common damage types and even works with items granting resists of those types.

That's why I'd put it at black for Defenders and Warlords, but it's a minor quibble really. I have it for a now 17th-level Swordmage and I've mitigated over 90 points of damage to myself a few times and that doesn't include having the DM re-aim bursts towards durable/higher defense party members with the squishiest being able to get in optimal position while leaving it as the only viable target in a blast with my defender.

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2011 - 12:39PM #38
zelink551
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All the PPs are rated. Partial feat list up.
The Elemental Man (or Woman): A Genasi Handbook

The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

That's right. Rules According to Zelink!

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http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/28317541/Barfcheeze_help?pg=1

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2011 - 1:00PM #39
cannonfodder
Date Joined: Mar 20, 2003
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Elemental blade attunement gives the dmg bonus to Swordmage implement attacks. Otherwise you have to use 2 feats to cover the one.
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2011 - 4:58PM #40
Kriseeth
Date Joined: Jun 9, 2010
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I just started work on my hybrid (oh, choices, how I love thee) swordmage/wizard.  I'm working toward optimizing damage, so at 12th level, I have a staff of ruin, dragonshard augment, weapon & implement focuses, dual implement expertise, and an INT stat of 23. Now I have good melee basics thanks to Intelligent swordmaster, some cannon shots from being a wizard and solid striker, with a bit of save-my-buddy mixed in.

I haven't played a genasi before, and I'm really kind of regretting it!   With any luck, I'll hit things so fast and hard that my GM will ban the character away Laughing

So, if there are any suggestions for something I should look at to improve my Genasi-ness, I would love to hear it.  This forum looks like it's growing fast, good luck on it!  I'll keep checking in on my latest favorite race.
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