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2 years ago ::
Jul 06, 2011 - 1:41PM
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I am playing around with a Hunter at the moment and am trying to come up with ways to make Rapid shot and the hunter's ranged basic attacks very powerful. So far I have multiclassed fighter for the battle fury stance (can't use a ranged stance with this power) and I have checked out using combustion whetstones and the fire dragonstone augment with a weapon that deals fire damage. I have bow focus, a +4 weapon, 7 dex mod, and bracers of archery. I also have +26 to hit vs AC and grazing shot incase i ever do miss a ranged basic.
Is there anyway to make my ranged basic attack better? Or a way to use another classes at will as a ranged basic attack? Like using Twin Strike as an at will or eldricht blast.
EDIT: I have been looking, is there any way to crit on a 19-20 with a hand crossbow?
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2 years ago ::
Jul 06, 2011 - 1:55PM
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MC Seeker instead of Fighter, take the Primal Eye feat. Bow Mastery grants expanded crit range for hand crossbows.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 06, 2011 - 2:22PM
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Feb 19, 2011
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Would Waistband of the Grappler increase my damage rolls with my ranged basic? The wording reads "You gain +5 Power bonus to damage rolls and to grab attempts, but take -2 penalty to attack rolls." It may be rules lawyering but it doesn't say "you gain a +5 power bonus to damage rolls with grab attacks and to grab attempts." It does not specify that the damage increase is limited to grab attacks.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 06, 2011 - 2:36PM
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Would Waistband of the Grappler increase my damage rolls with my ranged basic? The wording reads "You gain +5 Power bonus to damage rolls and to grab attempts, but take -2 penalty to attack rolls." It may be rules lawyering but it doesn't say "you gain a +5 power bonus to damage rolls with grab attacks and to grab attempts." It does not specify that the damage increase is limited to grab attacks.
Yeah, it works with all damage rolls.
The -2 penalty makes it somewhat weaker, but unless you're doing an average of 50 points a shot, it'll be higher DPR. However, watch out for the fact that it's a power bonus; it might conflict with damage bonuses granted by your leader.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 06, 2011 - 2:56PM
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+5 damage is totally not worth -2 to hit (unless you're already hitting on better than a 2, which to be fair, a Hunter very well might be).
Ways to improve RBAs: Primal Eye. Be a Half-Elf and take Biting Swarm as your dilettante. Take Defending Dabbler. Use a Mindiron superior crossbow and Psychic Lock.
Read the guide, basically. See my sig.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 07, 2011 - 6:51AM
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Also, Eagle Eye Goggles if you don't have them already.
+1 on MC seeker + Primal Eye.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 07, 2011 - 10:34AM
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At paragon, the best RBA you can obtain is adept dilettante biting swarm or grappling spirits on a revenant dex/con half elf hunter lyrandar wind-rider with primal eye.
Con vs AC, 1[W]+CON+CON+DEX+mods.
The only downside is the restriction to lightning weapons (the upside is that both lightning weapons and thunderbolt weapons have pretty fantastic dailies anyway), meaning it can't be combined with the mindiron / psychic lock / defending dabbler / biting swarm trick. But -4 is still decent, and slide 1 + slow isn't bad either. If your DM is willing to rule that it's incredibly dumb that the slow from grappling spirits only lasts until the end of the monster's turn, and make it last until the end of your next turn instead, then it can be combined with world serpent's grasp and vicious advantage to great effect.
Edit: it should of course be mentioned that this is the best RBA you can obtain on a *hunter*. The best RBA period would be much the same thing on a slayer chassis, but there's no way to get it both rapid or clever shots and one of the seeker at-wills. I'd probably take rapid shot before the seeker at-will on a slayer, so that would make his RBA 1[W]+DEX+DEX+DEX+CON+mods
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2 years ago ::
Jul 07, 2011 - 10:53AM
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Feb 22, 2011
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At paragon, the best RBA you can obtain is adept dilettante biting swarm or grappling spirits on a revenant dex/con half elf hunter lyrandar wind-rider with primal eye.
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Edit: it should of course be mentioned that this is the best RBA you can obtain on a *hunter*. The best RBA period would be much the same thing on a slayer chassis, but there's no way to get it both rapid or clever shots and one of the seeker at-wills. I'd probably take rapid shot before the seeker at-will on a slayer, so that would make his RBA 1[W]+DEX+DEX+DEX+CON+mods
Ok, I really need to see how this works. Could you post a sample build of this, or PM it to me? I have the general idea of all the feats/multiclasses/items involved but I'd love to see it on paper.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 07, 2011 - 11:05AM
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Ok, I really need to see how this works. Could you post a sample build of this, or PM it to me? I have the general idea of all the feats/multiclasses/items involved but I'd love to see it on paper.
I'd be happy to post it...but are you referring to the hunter or the slayer?
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2 years ago ::
Jul 07, 2011 - 11:10AM
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Honestly? Both. But the slayer if you only want to do one.
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