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2 years ago ::
Jul 04, 2011 - 10:07PM
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Article with VideoYep it seems that the next generation of video game is becoming more like D&D and other roleplaying games.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 04, 2011 - 10:31PM
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They have been ripping off tabletop games (and vice versa) since each was concieved. It's normal.
No one wins in the Edition Wars. The whole hobby loses. Wizards did not lose me as a DDI subscriber with the Online CB, they lost me long before that. And I have let my Herald Level GM Status lapse after 8 years. Wizards lack of support and the Edition Wars Trolls that are poorly moderated just managed to take all the fun out of public events. ~~ KT
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2 years ago ::
Jul 04, 2011 - 10:51PM
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But they are turning video games into D&D! 
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2 years ago ::
Jul 05, 2011 - 4:04AM
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First, I just want to say this isn't anything even remotely new. Games such as Fallout had moral decisions that impacted the way your game was played and endings you recieved - I'm sure there were ones before that as well.
Second, since moral decisions are a part of real life, I wouldn't say that they were ripping off D&D, unless you want to say that D&D was the originator of moral choices...
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2 years ago ::
Jul 05, 2011 - 4:50AM
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> I'm sure there were ones before that as well.
The single-player Ultima series from Ultima 4 (mid-1980s) onward.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 05, 2011 - 8:58AM
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Yes, nothing new here. Maybe what they should be saying is they are doing that more than they used to. So decisions will matter "more" but the concept is not new or original.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 05, 2011 - 11:40AM
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It's not a new concept, but it is becoming more prevalent. Hopefully with this prevalence, the implementation of moral choices develop beyond "Do you save the child, so the annoying NPCs like you better and you gain +5 more angel points? Or do you punch her head off and drink her blood, angering the NPCs you don't care about and gaining +5 devil points?"
4e D&D is not a "Tabletop MMO." It is not Massively Multiplayer, and is usually not played Online. Come up with better descriptions of your complaints, cuz this one means jack ****.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 05, 2011 - 12:08PM
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Agree
Fallout New Vegas is a bit better
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in one part of the game, you have the option of flooding a vault with radiation, killing those who are trapped, but in doing so allowing water to flow for crops being grown to feed people. Or you can divert the radiation, letting the people escape but destroy the crops.
Choices such as that make the game interesting, but unfortunately there isn't much result from making that choice (no change in ending or anything). I'm tired of the Infamous and Dante's inferno games where really your all good, or all evil - there is no reward for trying to play the balance game.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 05, 2011 - 12:16PM
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Weren't there a few Jedi Knight games with a 'Dark Side Meter'?
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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2 years ago ::
Jul 05, 2011 - 12:29PM
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Until games can get past the "black and white" morality... this isn't really news, and it doesn't really approach D&D (or rpgs in general, or "real life").
Honestly, I find bad morality systems in games much much more annoying than no morality system.
(Which, not coincidently, is exactly how I feel about "alignment" in D&D.)
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