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2 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2011 - 6:18PM #1
Bohrdumb
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2010
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So at an early lvl, I was looking to see what I could do with a Slayer to up the damage, the best choice I saw was going MC Monk at lvl 4 for a cheesy 8dmg on my main target, 10 to anything adjacent 1/enc.

Now he's set up as a charging Slayer, with a Vanguard Spear, and nova intentions early, using the Flurry to add a bit more damage to try and finish things off.

My question is, is this guy a viable option for a long term run in a more optimized/challenging campaign?

Note: he is currently armor less and not completely equipped as it's just theoretical at this point.

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====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
level 11
Half-Orc, Slayer, Bloodfury Savage
Unbound Assault Option: Unbound Assault Strength
 
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
STR 23, CON 12, DEX 19, INT 11, WIS 9, CHA 11
 
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
STR 18, CON 11, DEX 14, INT 10, WIS 8, CHA 10
 
 
AC: 19 Fort: 23 Ref: 22 Will: 15
HP: 87 Surges: 10 Surge Value: 21
 
TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +16, Endurance +13, Intimidate +12, Thievery +14
 
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +9, Arcana +5, Bluff +5, Diplomacy +5, Dungeoneering +4, Heal +4, History +5, Insight +4, Nature +4, Perception +4, Religion +5, Stealth +9, Streetwise +5
 
POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Half-Orc Racial Power: Furious Assault
Multiple Class Attack: Power Strike
Fighter Utility: Duelist's Assault
Fighter Utility: Berserker's Charge
Fighter Utility: Mobile Blade
Monk Feature: Stone Fist Flurry of Blows
Fighter Utility 2: Single Out
Fighter Utility 2: Who's Next?
Fighter Utility 2: Battle Fury Stance
Bloodfury Savage Attack 11: Unbound Assault
 
FEATS
Level 1: Spear Expertise
Level 2: Powerful Charge
Level 4: Monastic Disciple
Level 6: Surprising Charge
Level 8: Superior Reflexes
Level 10: Cunning Stalker
Level 11: Impaling Spear
 
ITEMS
Vanguard Longspear +1
Horned Helm (heroic tier) x1
Bracers of Mighty Striking (heroic tier) x1
Vanguard Longspear +2 x1
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2011 - 6:26PM #2
Jay_Ibero_911
Date Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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It's not a bad MC, it gives you some nice additional skill options, and the flurry is nice to boost your spike damage now that power strike is no action. It also opens up a few handy monk feats and the option to power swap for your choice of monk utilities. Fluid Motion for +2 to speed in paragon is nice.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2011 - 9:19AM #3
undeadpool
Date Joined: Jul 15, 2010
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you would be well served to pickup rain of blows with the martial crosstraining feat, 3 attacks that deal all but your str mod can get pretty nuts 

IMO the monk is one of the best MC options there is you get ki focuses, which are usable by implement/weapon jugglers to roll it all into 1 expertise, you get flurry of blows and you get training in a monk skill, which ill burn for acrobatics or perception  
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2011 - 1:59PM #4
Bohrdumb
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2010
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Jun 25, 2011 -- 9:19AM, undeadpool wrote:

you would be well served to pickup rain of blows with the martial crosstraining feat, 3 attacks that deal all but your str mod can get pretty nuts 

IMO the monk is one of the best MC options there is you get ki focuses, which are usable by implement/weapon jugglers to roll it all into 1 expertise, you get flurry of blows and you get training in a monk skill, which ill burn for acrobatics or perception  




Yea, Im working strictly from the OCB so once the update hits I will pull in Rain of Blows which will really up my dmg output.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2011 - 2:49PM #5
cdrombach
Date Joined: Apr 29, 2009
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Martial Cross-Training is already in the character builder.  I put it on my slayer the other day.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2011 - 2:55PM #6
Damon_Tor
Date Joined: Jun 20, 2009
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Jun 25, 2011 -- 1:59PM, Bohrdumb wrote:

Jun 25, 2011 -- 9:19AM, undeadpool wrote:

you would be well served to pickup rain of blows with the martial crosstraining feat, 3 attacks that deal all but your str mod can get pretty nuts 

IMO the monk is one of the best MC options there is you get ki focuses, which are usable by implement/weapon jugglers to roll it all into 1 expertise, you get flurry of blows and you get training in a monk skill, which ill burn for acrobatics or perception  




Yea, Im working strictly from the OCB so once the update hits I will pull in Rain of Blows which will really up my dmg output.




For a charger (especially with surprising charge) I'd get Hydra Charge instead.

Also: look into using a gouge.  You get the charging goodness of a spear with the slayer's support for the axe, plus it does huge damage.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2011 - 5:53PM #7
Bohrdumb
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2010
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With Hydra Charge, am I considered to be making a charge attack against each of the targets, or just against the primary one? The reason I ask is obviously because I would need to know if it would trigger my Vanguard weapon and my Horned Helm and all my other 'I'm chargin my Slayer!' add ons.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2011 - 11:00PM #8
Jay_Ibero_911
Date Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Jun 25, 2011 -- 5:53PM, Bohrdumb wrote:

With Hydra Charge, am I considered to be making a charge attack against each of the targets, or just against the primary one? The reason I ask is obviously because I would need to know if it would trigger my Vanguard weapon and my Horned Helm and all my other 'I'm chargin my Slayer!' add ons.




There is no primary target. It's a close burst.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 26, 2011 - 12:40AM #9
Damon_Tor
Date Joined: Jun 20, 2009
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Yes, it counts as a charge attack against each of the targets, and you thus get all the goodies, including horned helm, vanguard weapon, and surprising charge.  It's pretty wicked.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 26, 2011 - 5:15AM #10
cdrombach
Date Joined: Apr 29, 2009
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You can get the same bonuses on Rain of Blows with Boots of the Mighty Charge.
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