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2 years ago  ::  Jun 16, 2011 - 7:48PM #11
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There was an attempt to make Races of the Horde here on the forum. Unfortunately it was never completed.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 17, 2011 - 10:39AM #12
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Looks interesting.
I might have to contact some of the authors and ask them if I can borrow some of their stuff.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 18, 2011 - 7:16PM #13
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I would consider the Ogre,Ogre Magi and Half -Ogre from savage species. This could give you a fantasy version of japan? I might also consider Ettins as npcs. I like the idea of Ettins as comedy duos. Imagine an female ettin based off Laverne and Shirley,with Lenny and Squiggy as the boyfreind?
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 02, 2011 - 8:49AM #14
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How many types of Half -Ogres do you think there are? Half Ogre Show
A half ogre /half human is the most common nowadays detailed in several sources and basically a big ugly human.
Ogrillion Show
In 2ED D+D orcs and ogres would crossbreed and form an Ogrillion. Most Ogrillions were devotees of Baghtu,the orc god of strength and relied on punching attacks. Since orcs and ogres still mingle I assume some sort of ogrillion is still possible.
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Since ogres are maintained as heavy shock troops the most common type of halfbreed is probably Hobgoblin/Ogre. These are equiped to a hobgoblin standard with long sword and javelins for the males and slings for the females. Males are probably equiped with a chain shirt to increase foot speed and given a heavy steel shield?
Scro Show
In the spelljammer universe orcs lost a war to space elves. they retreated and interbred with humans and ogres to make themselves tougher and smarter.
Merrow Show
Would an aquatic ogre breed with humans or fey to create an intelligent race of underwater lake dwellers?
ogre magi Show
They take humans and ogres as slaves and might breed with both? I think that children of an ogre/ogre magi crossbreeding are always one or the other.
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 12, 2011 - 6:54PM #15
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Now,the biggest drawback I can see with Hobgoblins is their tendancy to engage in intense inter-tribal warfare. If every hobgoblin declared a truce for 100 years they could hand a lot of grief to the good races. In order to create a nation of forty tribes or roughly 6000 adult hobgoblins I propose the three following social mechanisms to build racial cohesion. Obsidian Order Show
A nation of 6000 hobgoblins could support 1 rogue per 100 adults. This group is open to males and females and renounces tribal loyalties. They assassinate non-conformists and spy on foreign races,may also contain some hobgoblin/human crossbreeds. Mostly low level and seperate from the tribal leaders who are also rogues. The Obsidian Order is based loosely off the Cardasssians of Star Trek. 
Battlepoets Show
60 Bards organised like the Obsidian Order. They are the Carrot to the Obsidian Order's Stick. While Battlepoets travel with tribes they are supposedely inter-tribal. Constantly stress racial glory.
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60 clerics who worship the hobgoblin pantheon and are open to both sexes. Provide Unholy direction to nation. 60 loosely organised adepts assists in these efforts.
A nation of 6000 hobgoblins(1/2 male--1/2 female) can easily create these specials and as they form they build national unity thru Guile-Inspiration and Faith.
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 18, 2011 - 5:11PM #16
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Now, hobgoblins follow the "Everybody Fights " rule with males and females following a warrior's path and learning the same weapons. But this is hardly the best idea. It would make more sense for the hobgoblins to seperate the male and female roles in combat. In a world with fast breeding humanoids putting your females into frontline combat roles is a poor strategy. Instead I envision hobgoblin females as missile troops and tactical reserve. The re-vamped weapon package should be as follows. Sling Show
A cheap missile weapon when you are making 50 % of your force missile troops. Hobgoblin females probably carry a double sized war pouch of 20 bullets and scavenge battlefields for scrap metal after every battle.
spear Show
Comes with a carrying strap and is deployed to meet cavalry charges. Hobgoblin females are ordered to retreat if at all possible though.
Handax Show
A survival tool and any army that moves thru wooded terraign will issue these. Useful for sharpening stakes.
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The ultimate tool and backup weapon. Used for eating as well .
 A game designer will want to limit how much a hobgoblin carries,limits pc loot and keeps from overwhelming begining Dms with tactical options. A hobgoblin war chief will want his troops as well equiped as a roman legionaire. You decide. I would also give the handax +dagger combo to males ,of course. I might give females a buckler rather than a light shield.
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 27, 2011 - 1:53PM #17
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Mongoose Publishing had the Slayers Guides to various monsters. Rather than buy each one seperately I would get the Volume one compendium that covers ;Hobgoblins , Gnolls , Troglodyte , Bugbears , Trolls , Orcs , Dopplegangers and Tritons. This is an ecletic mix of 8 races in a hardcover book the size of the MM. Moongoose publishing has a website but I would visit amazon.com and check out the used. I also have the Paperback slayer's guide to Yuan-ti and Kobolds as well.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 25, 2011 - 12:00PM #18
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Now , You have Savage species. On page 132-133 they have a hob-goblin/griffin that is used to explain the tauric template. Imagine if hobgoblin tribes replaced their ogre or troll auxilliries with the Hobbo-griffins? This would give them flying scouts and of the preffered hob goblin blood as well.
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2 years ago  ::  Oct 23, 2011 - 7:18PM #19
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If I was you I would consider adding the Minotaur from Savage Species as well. If Minotaurs were evolved cattle that were herbivores you could have fairly large communities of them. The pcs would be young males who were driven out of the community and were adventuring to grow in power so they could return home and kill their father and take over his herd? What sort of beer does a minotaur drink? Show
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 04, 2012 - 5:30PM #20
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Aug 27, 2011 -- 1:53PM, taradusis wrote:

Mongoose Publishing had the Slayers Guides to various monsters.
I also have the Paperback slayer's guide to Yuan-ti and Kobolds as well.




sorry for dig up an old thread but it came up in search and this looks like what i would want for maki a kobold. and i love the yaun-ti also
what is the name of book please?

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