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2 years ago ::
Jun 09, 2011 - 8:48PM
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I'm reading through the DM, and the PC Mounts section is fairly skinny, not even really covering a full 2 pages. My RC isn't handy, so I hope someone has a quick answer.
- As a move action, I can teleport/slide/jump/something other than simply "move."
- As part of an attack, I get to slide away right after.
- I kill an enemy, and am allowed to teleport x squares.
Does my mount come with me? And in which instances? I do NOT have Mounted Combat as a feat, for the sake of this question.
As a DM, I find it easier to just punish the players no matter what they pick, as I assume they will pick stuff that is broken. I mean, fight after fight they kill all the monsters without getting killed themselves! What sort of a game is this, anyway?
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2 years ago ::
Jun 09, 2011 - 8:51PM
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Addendum: For non-teleport powers, my rules text reads "may move up to my speed" or "may shift up to my speed."
IF the answer to the above questions is "yes," does that "up to my speed" turn into "up to my mount's speed?"
As a DM, I find it easier to just punish the players no matter what they pick, as I assume they will pick stuff that is broken. I mean, fight after fight they kill all the monsters without getting killed themselves! What sort of a game is this, anyway?
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2 years ago ::
Jun 09, 2011 - 8:51PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 19, 2008
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- As a move action, I can teleport/slide/jump/something other than simply "move."
- As part of an attack, I get to slide away right after.
- I kill an enemy, and am allowed to teleport x squares.
Does my mount come with me? And in which instances? I do NOT have Mounted Combat as a feat, for the sake of this question
If you teleport, the mount does not come with you (RC, p.255)
If you undergo forced movement, say, a slide, you can take the mount along with you (RC, p.254)
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2 years ago ::
Jun 09, 2011 - 9:05PM
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It's not forced movement, it's my movement.
I'm a scout with Aspect of the Cunning Fox. Look away. Look back. I'm on a horse. My horse moves up to its speed, and I miss with my attack.
I should get to shift 2 for missing that. But it's not me shifting, since I'm riding a horse. But since we share a set of actions, can I shift using my horse, or do I lose my shift because it's not me shifting?
Expediency would say just let me shift. But I'd prefer to be clean on the rules before I treat my DM to this kind of trick, and get shot down because he has a different interpretation of the rules.
(EDIT: For the sake of argument, assume I can take a "stance" in the saddle. Just so we don't get too sidetracked on that.)
As a DM, I find it easier to just punish the players no matter what they pick, as I assume they will pick stuff that is broken. I mean, fight after fight they kill all the monsters without getting killed themselves! What sort of a game is this, anyway?
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2 years ago ::
Jun 09, 2011 - 9:32PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 19, 2008
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Oh ok, your attack power also allows you to shift 2 squares. Here is what the Rules Compendium has to say on the matter:
Actions (Adventurers Only): An adventurer and his or her mount have one combined
set of actions: a standard action, a move action, and a minor action. The player
chooses how the two creatures use the actions on the adventurer’s turn. Most
commonly, the mount takes a move action to walk or fly, and the adventurer takes
a standard action to attack. The adventurer and the mount also share a single
immediate action each round and a single opportunity action each turn. If the
adventurer dismounts, the two still share one set of actions on that turn, but
have separate sets of actions thereafter.
The text does not speak to this specifically, so you'll have to draw your own conclusions unfortunately.
Since you are allowed to move with your horse if an enemy push/pull/slides you (or the horse), it makes sense that you are allowed to move with your horse if your attack power also allows you some kind of movement on the side.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 09, 2011 - 10:02PM
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There is no rule which allows your own shift to affect your mount. Since no rule exists, you cannot do it unless your DM wants to use a house rule.
The fact that the mount rules do not mention this means you use the normal movement rules, there are no special rules regarding shifting while mounted.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2011 - 3:56AM
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Date Joined:
Jul 22, 2008
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- As a move action, I can teleport/slide/jump/something other than simply "move."
- As part of an attack, I get to slide away right after.
- I kill an enemy, and am allowed to teleport x squares.
Does my mount come with me? And in which instances? I do NOT have Mounted Combat as a feat, for the sake of this question.
In all of the above cases, if the power or ability says that "you" can move, then it applies only to you. The mount does not come with you.
If you're mounted, and command your mount to move, then you're limited to the movement modes available to the mount.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2011 - 2:49PM
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I'm disappointed. These interpretations make the idea of mounted combat significantly less awesome.
As a DM, I find it easier to just punish the players no matter what they pick, as I assume they will pick stuff that is broken. I mean, fight after fight they kill all the monsters without getting killed themselves! What sort of a game is this, anyway?
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