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1 year ago  ::  Jan 24, 2012 - 9:15AM #201
Emperorlou
Date Joined: Jan 24, 2012
Posts: 4

Jan 21, 2012 -- 10:58PM, Schmo_Samgee wrote:

So I recently purchased the Red Box and I must say I love it, a nice read and a fun game to boot.  I ran through the solo side and am working on running my wife through it.  My hopes are to have a few of my co-workers run through it also to build their characters and end up DMing a group of four people.  I purchased the DM kit and will be getting it Monday (I can't wait).  My question is should I continue to purchase the monster vault, and other 4e books since I see talk of a new edition coming out.  Also if my group plans dont pan out how active is the VT?  I would gladly pay $10 a month for some good games.


You can always play online at myrpg for free if you need a vtt. As long as you don't mind using Microlite20 instead of full blown D&D.

Play D&D online at MyRPG :D:D
Check out a gameplay video here: MyRPG Demo Video
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 25, 2012 - 8:40AM #202
mellored
Date Joined: Jul 8, 2008
Posts: 19,468

Jan 21, 2012 -- 10:58PM, Schmo_Samgee wrote:

So I recently purchased the Red Box and I must say I love it, a nice read and a fun game to boot.  I ran through the solo side and am working on running my wife through it.  My hopes are to have a few of my co-workers run through it also to build their characters and end up DMing a group of four people.  I purchased the DM kit and will be getting it Monday (I can't wait).  My question is should I continue to purchase the monster vault, and other 4e books since I see talk of a new edition coming out.  Also if my group plans dont pan out how active is the VT?  I would gladly pay $10 a month for some good games.


Maptools (www.rptools.net) makes a great free VTT.

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F-111 Interdictor Long (200+ squares) distance ally teleporter.  With some warlord stuff.  Broken in a plot way, not a power way.
Thought Switch   Higher level build that grants upto 14 attacks on turn 1.  If your allies play along, it's broken.
Elven Critters Crit op with crit generation.  5 of these will end anything.  Broken.
King Fisher Does an excellent job at keeping an enemy disabled in a few ways.  Strong.
Boominator Fun catch-22 booming blade build with either strong or completely broken damage depending on your reading.
Very Distracting Warlock Lot's of dazing and major penalties to hit.  Overpowered.
Pocket Protector Pixie Stealth Knight. Maximizing the defender's aura by being in an ally's/enemy's square.
Yakuza NinjIntimiAdin: Perma-stealth Striker that offers a little protection for ally's, and can intimidate bloodied enemies. Very Strong.
Chargeburgler with cheese Ranged attacks at the end of a charge along with perma-stealth. Solid, could be overpowered if tweaked.
Void Defender Defends giving a penalty to hit anyone but him, then removing himself from play. Can get somewhat broken in epic.
Scry and Die Attacking from around corners, while staying hidden. Moderate to broken, depending on the situation.
Skimisher Fly in, attack, and fly away. Also prevents enemies from coming close. Moderate to Broken depending on the enemy, but shouldn't make the game un-fun, as the rest of your team is at risk, and you have enough weaknesses.
Indestructible Simply won't die, even if you sleep though combat.
Sir Robin (Bravely Charge Away) He automatically slows and pushes an enemy (5 squares), while charging away. Hard to rate it's power level, since it's terrain dependent.
Death's Gatekeeper A fun twist on a healic, making your party "unkillable". Overpowered to Broken, but shouldn't actually make the game un-fun, just TPK proof.
Death's Gatekeeper mk2, (Stealth Edition) Make your party "unkillable", and you hidden, while doing solid damage. Stronger then the above, but also easier for a DM to shut down. Broken, until your DM get's enough of it.
Domination and Death Dominate everything then kill them quickly. Only works @ 30, but is broken multiple ways.
Battlemind Mc Prone-Daze Protecting your allies by keeping enemies away. Quite powerful.
The Retaliator Getting hit deals more damage to the enemy then you receive yourself, and you can take plenty of hits. Heavy item dependency, Broken.
Dead Kobold Transit Teleports 98 squares a turn, and can bring someone along for the ride. Not fully built, so i can't judge the power
Psilent Guardian Protect your allies, while being invisible. Overpowered, possibly broken
Unnamed Avenger|Runepriest/Hammer of Vengance Do lot's of damage while boosting your teams. Strong to slightly overpowered.
Charedent BarrageA charging ardent. Fine in a normal team, overpowered if there are 2 together, and easily broken in teams of 5.
Super Knight A tough, sticky, high damage knight. Strong.
Super Duper Knight Basically the same as super knight, only far more broken.
Mora, the unkillable avenger Solid damage, while being neigh indestuctable. Overpowered, but not broken.
Swordburst Maximus At-Will Close Burst 3 that slide and prones.  Protects allies with off actions. Strong, possibly over powered with the right party.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 13, 2012 - 3:39PM #203
rcmdawg
Date Joined: Jan 27, 2011
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So i'm getting the Heros of Fallen Lands book what else do i need to start an adventure? So far it's only my girlfriend and I who are going to start playing and maybe two other people.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 14, 2012 - 7:11AM #204
mellored
Date Joined: Jul 8, 2008
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Feb 13, 2012 -- 3:39PM, rcmdawg wrote:

So i'm getting the Heros of Fallen Lands book what else do i need to start an adventure? So far it's only my girlfriend and I who are going to start playing and maybe two other people.



DM kit (for whoever is DMing).
Rule compendium.

Dice + paper+ penciles ... 

Later, grab the monster vault. 

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F-111 Interdictor Long (200+ squares) distance ally teleporter.  With some warlord stuff.  Broken in a plot way, not a power way.
Thought Switch   Higher level build that grants upto 14 attacks on turn 1.  If your allies play along, it's broken.
Elven Critters Crit op with crit generation.  5 of these will end anything.  Broken.
King Fisher Does an excellent job at keeping an enemy disabled in a few ways.  Strong.
Boominator Fun catch-22 booming blade build with either strong or completely broken damage depending on your reading.
Very Distracting Warlock Lot's of dazing and major penalties to hit.  Overpowered.
Pocket Protector Pixie Stealth Knight. Maximizing the defender's aura by being in an ally's/enemy's square.
Yakuza NinjIntimiAdin: Perma-stealth Striker that offers a little protection for ally's, and can intimidate bloodied enemies. Very Strong.
Chargeburgler with cheese Ranged attacks at the end of a charge along with perma-stealth. Solid, could be overpowered if tweaked.
Void Defender Defends giving a penalty to hit anyone but him, then removing himself from play. Can get somewhat broken in epic.
Scry and Die Attacking from around corners, while staying hidden. Moderate to broken, depending on the situation.
Skimisher Fly in, attack, and fly away. Also prevents enemies from coming close. Moderate to Broken depending on the enemy, but shouldn't make the game un-fun, as the rest of your team is at risk, and you have enough weaknesses.
Indestructible Simply won't die, even if you sleep though combat.
Sir Robin (Bravely Charge Away) He automatically slows and pushes an enemy (5 squares), while charging away. Hard to rate it's power level, since it's terrain dependent.
Death's Gatekeeper A fun twist on a healic, making your party "unkillable". Overpowered to Broken, but shouldn't actually make the game un-fun, just TPK proof.
Death's Gatekeeper mk2, (Stealth Edition) Make your party "unkillable", and you hidden, while doing solid damage. Stronger then the above, but also easier for a DM to shut down. Broken, until your DM get's enough of it.
Domination and Death Dominate everything then kill them quickly. Only works @ 30, but is broken multiple ways.
Battlemind Mc Prone-Daze Protecting your allies by keeping enemies away. Quite powerful.
The Retaliator Getting hit deals more damage to the enemy then you receive yourself, and you can take plenty of hits. Heavy item dependency, Broken.
Dead Kobold Transit Teleports 98 squares a turn, and can bring someone along for the ride. Not fully built, so i can't judge the power
Psilent Guardian Protect your allies, while being invisible. Overpowered, possibly broken
Unnamed Avenger|Runepriest/Hammer of Vengance Do lot's of damage while boosting your teams. Strong to slightly overpowered.
Charedent BarrageA charging ardent. Fine in a normal team, overpowered if there are 2 together, and easily broken in teams of 5.
Super Knight A tough, sticky, high damage knight. Strong.
Super Duper Knight Basically the same as super knight, only far more broken.
Mora, the unkillable avenger Solid damage, while being neigh indestuctable. Overpowered, but not broken.
Swordburst Maximus At-Will Close Burst 3 that slide and prones.  Protects allies with off actions. Strong, possibly over powered with the right party.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 14, 2012 - 8:39AM #205
rcmdawg
Date Joined: Jan 27, 2011
Posts: 20
I see stuff about character movement so do i need to get the Tiles? Or is there somewhere i can get map that have the grid markers on them? Not sure what my first adventure will be but i see a free one online called Keep on the Shadowfell. It shows a map on it but not sure where to get it. Thanks for the help! I'm trying to get everything for this weekend.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 14, 2012 - 9:39AM #206
mellored
Date Joined: Jul 8, 2008
Posts: 19,468

Feb 14, 2012 -- 8:39AM, rcmdawg wrote:

I see stuff about character movement so do i need to get the Tiles? Or is there somewhere i can get map that have the grid markers on them? Not sure what my first adventure will be but i see a free one online called Keep on the Shadowfell. It shows a map on it but not sure where to get it. Thanks for the help! I'm trying to get everything for this weekend.


What you really need is a grid (roughly 20x20), moveable pieces (that can be differentiatied), and set pieces (for walls, and stuff).

Tiles work, and they look nice.  I don't personally use them.
You can also make your own tiles.  If you have a printer.
Many people like to get a laminated grid, and just draw stuff.
Others use a checkered table cloth and colored candy, with forks, spoons, and salt shakers.  For those on a super small budget.
There's also digital maps.  Such as maptools, but those require laptops, or a big TV to hook up to.  They let you play online though.
And if you want to go all out, there's several 3d stuff you can build and miniture figurines to buy.


And the DM kit comes with a nice starter adventure.  So you should be set for a little while.  You can decide weather you want to create your own or continue with pre-mades after you've played a bit.

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F-111 Interdictor Long (200+ squares) distance ally teleporter.  With some warlord stuff.  Broken in a plot way, not a power way.
Thought Switch   Higher level build that grants upto 14 attacks on turn 1.  If your allies play along, it's broken.
Elven Critters Crit op with crit generation.  5 of these will end anything.  Broken.
King Fisher Does an excellent job at keeping an enemy disabled in a few ways.  Strong.
Boominator Fun catch-22 booming blade build with either strong or completely broken damage depending on your reading.
Very Distracting Warlock Lot's of dazing and major penalties to hit.  Overpowered.
Pocket Protector Pixie Stealth Knight. Maximizing the defender's aura by being in an ally's/enemy's square.
Yakuza NinjIntimiAdin: Perma-stealth Striker that offers a little protection for ally's, and can intimidate bloodied enemies. Very Strong.
Chargeburgler with cheese Ranged attacks at the end of a charge along with perma-stealth. Solid, could be overpowered if tweaked.
Void Defender Defends giving a penalty to hit anyone but him, then removing himself from play. Can get somewhat broken in epic.
Scry and Die Attacking from around corners, while staying hidden. Moderate to broken, depending on the situation.
Skimisher Fly in, attack, and fly away. Also prevents enemies from coming close. Moderate to Broken depending on the enemy, but shouldn't make the game un-fun, as the rest of your team is at risk, and you have enough weaknesses.
Indestructible Simply won't die, even if you sleep though combat.
Sir Robin (Bravely Charge Away) He automatically slows and pushes an enemy (5 squares), while charging away. Hard to rate it's power level, since it's terrain dependent.
Death's Gatekeeper A fun twist on a healic, making your party "unkillable". Overpowered to Broken, but shouldn't actually make the game un-fun, just TPK proof.
Death's Gatekeeper mk2, (Stealth Edition) Make your party "unkillable", and you hidden, while doing solid damage. Stronger then the above, but also easier for a DM to shut down. Broken, until your DM get's enough of it.
Domination and Death Dominate everything then kill them quickly. Only works @ 30, but is broken multiple ways.
Battlemind Mc Prone-Daze Protecting your allies by keeping enemies away. Quite powerful.
The Retaliator Getting hit deals more damage to the enemy then you receive yourself, and you can take plenty of hits. Heavy item dependency, Broken.
Dead Kobold Transit Teleports 98 squares a turn, and can bring someone along for the ride. Not fully built, so i can't judge the power
Psilent Guardian Protect your allies, while being invisible. Overpowered, possibly broken
Unnamed Avenger|Runepriest/Hammer of Vengance Do lot's of damage while boosting your teams. Strong to slightly overpowered.
Charedent BarrageA charging ardent. Fine in a normal team, overpowered if there are 2 together, and easily broken in teams of 5.
Super Knight A tough, sticky, high damage knight. Strong.
Super Duper Knight Basically the same as super knight, only far more broken.
Mora, the unkillable avenger Solid damage, while being neigh indestuctable. Overpowered, but not broken.
Swordburst Maximus At-Will Close Burst 3 that slide and prones.  Protects allies with off actions. Strong, possibly over powered with the right party.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 14, 2012 - 10:20AM #207
rcmdawg
Date Joined: Jan 27, 2011
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Thank you for your help! I personally like the way the maps look with the tiles so i might pick up the Dungeon ones. I like the miniutures but i heard that WOTC doesn't make them anymore so they'll be hard to find. I might just pick some up for the Player characters. I heard the Monster Vault has monster tokens so that would be fine with me. I'll have to pick up the DM kit which brings me to my next question. So there are a total of 4 of us. If one of us is the DM then there will only be 3 players. I heard that 5 is the recommended amount but i don't think we will find other people who will want to play with us. Are the adventures scalable for 3 players instead of 5? 
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 14, 2012 - 11:47AM #208
mellored
Date Joined: Jul 8, 2008
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Feb 14, 2012 -- 10:20AM, rcmdawg wrote:

Thank you for your help! I personally like the way the maps look with the tiles so i might pick up the Dungeon ones. I like the miniutures but i heard that WOTC doesn't make them anymore so they'll be hard to find. I might just pick some up for the Player characters. I heard the Monster Vault has monster tokens so that would be fine with me. I'll have to pick up the DM kit which brings me to my next question. So there are a total of 4 of us. If one of us is the DM then there will only be 3 players. I heard that 5 is the recommended amount but i don't think we will find other people who will want to play with us. Are the adventures scalable for 3 players instead of 5? 


There are rules for scale encounters yes.  And yes, the default is 5, so you will need to.

Generally...
If there's 5 monsters, just remove 2.
If there's 4 monsters, remove 2 weaker ones, or 1 stronger one.
If there's 1 monster, reduce him by a level.

Some other encounters may take a bit more tinkering, like replacing a stronger monster with a weaker one.  But the rules cover all this, and it's not too difficult.

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F-111 Interdictor Long (200+ squares) distance ally teleporter.  With some warlord stuff.  Broken in a plot way, not a power way.
Thought Switch   Higher level build that grants upto 14 attacks on turn 1.  If your allies play along, it's broken.
Elven Critters Crit op with crit generation.  5 of these will end anything.  Broken.
King Fisher Does an excellent job at keeping an enemy disabled in a few ways.  Strong.
Boominator Fun catch-22 booming blade build with either strong or completely broken damage depending on your reading.
Very Distracting Warlock Lot's of dazing and major penalties to hit.  Overpowered.
Pocket Protector Pixie Stealth Knight. Maximizing the defender's aura by being in an ally's/enemy's square.
Yakuza NinjIntimiAdin: Perma-stealth Striker that offers a little protection for ally's, and can intimidate bloodied enemies. Very Strong.
Chargeburgler with cheese Ranged attacks at the end of a charge along with perma-stealth. Solid, could be overpowered if tweaked.
Void Defender Defends giving a penalty to hit anyone but him, then removing himself from play. Can get somewhat broken in epic.
Scry and Die Attacking from around corners, while staying hidden. Moderate to broken, depending on the situation.
Skimisher Fly in, attack, and fly away. Also prevents enemies from coming close. Moderate to Broken depending on the enemy, but shouldn't make the game un-fun, as the rest of your team is at risk, and you have enough weaknesses.
Indestructible Simply won't die, even if you sleep though combat.
Sir Robin (Bravely Charge Away) He automatically slows and pushes an enemy (5 squares), while charging away. Hard to rate it's power level, since it's terrain dependent.
Death's Gatekeeper A fun twist on a healic, making your party "unkillable". Overpowered to Broken, but shouldn't actually make the game un-fun, just TPK proof.
Death's Gatekeeper mk2, (Stealth Edition) Make your party "unkillable", and you hidden, while doing solid damage. Stronger then the above, but also easier for a DM to shut down. Broken, until your DM get's enough of it.
Domination and Death Dominate everything then kill them quickly. Only works @ 30, but is broken multiple ways.
Battlemind Mc Prone-Daze Protecting your allies by keeping enemies away. Quite powerful.
The Retaliator Getting hit deals more damage to the enemy then you receive yourself, and you can take plenty of hits. Heavy item dependency, Broken.
Dead Kobold Transit Teleports 98 squares a turn, and can bring someone along for the ride. Not fully built, so i can't judge the power
Psilent Guardian Protect your allies, while being invisible. Overpowered, possibly broken
Unnamed Avenger|Runepriest/Hammer of Vengance Do lot's of damage while boosting your teams. Strong to slightly overpowered.
Charedent BarrageA charging ardent. Fine in a normal team, overpowered if there are 2 together, and easily broken in teams of 5.
Super Knight A tough, sticky, high damage knight. Strong.
Super Duper Knight Basically the same as super knight, only far more broken.
Mora, the unkillable avenger Solid damage, while being neigh indestuctable. Overpowered, but not broken.
Swordburst Maximus At-Will Close Burst 3 that slide and prones.  Protects allies with off actions. Strong, possibly over powered with the right party.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 17, 2012 - 1:54AM #209
Zagstrike
Date Joined: Jan 19, 2012
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G'day, i'm a newbie to D&D. I've just gotten the red box and finished the solo mission (i ended up with a hafling cleric of of the sun) and am eager to continue on from there. I've got another friend who has the red box as well, we'll sort try and both get into the hobby together as a team.

So far playing a full fledged game looks pretty daunting, both in all the rules that seem to be needed for an actual game as well as actually finding someone to DM it all who'd be willing to take on a newb. Anyway, i'm here to try and learn as much as i can so i can get into the real game as soon as i can. It's nice to be here.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 06, 2012 - 7:51PM #210
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I've made some minor updates to the first post in this thread.  Apologies for the ugly links, it appears to be a technical issue.
Quentin Small
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