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2 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2011 - 8:01AM
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Very well done
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2 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2011 - 8:10AM
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i would include the red box conversion document next to the red box entry, theres been a lot of confused players regarding this
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2 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2011 - 9:05AM
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Oct 27, 2010
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First of all, yes, kudos for a great idea, well-executed.
Second, a request: either in this document, or in a similar one, can we please explain to people that "Essentials" uses the same ruleset as "core 4e," and simply introduces a new methodology for character creation? I understand that everyone is new to the game at some point, but it's getting tiring explaining to people who ask, for example, if an upcoming product is going to be "for Essentials" or "just for 4e." And since this document seems to be meant as a proto-FAQ for new players, and specifically calls out Essentials materials vs. "core 4e" materials, this seems as good a place as any.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2011 - 11:31AM
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everyone knows what someone means when you say its an essentials book or a 4e book
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2 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2011 - 11:34AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 27, 2010
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everyone knows what someone means when you say its an essentials book or a 4e book
Alas, I humbly disagree. In fact, I've seen a number of questions along these lines recently.
loose [loos] vt. to let loose; to release; to unfasten, undo or untie; to shoot or discharge. lose [looz] vt. to come to be without (something in one's possession or care), through accident, theft, etc., so that there is little or no prospect of recovery; to fail inadvertently to retain (something) in such a way that it cannot be immediately recovered; to suffer the deprivation of. LEARN THE DAMN DIFFERENCE.The pen is mightier than the character builder. Copy this to your sig if you like 4e but don't use the CB. "OD&D, 1E and 2E challenged the player. 3E challenged the character, not the player. Now 4E takes it a step further by challenging a GROUP OF PLAYERS to work together as a TEAM. That's why I love 4E." -RedSiegfried
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2 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2011 - 11:35AM
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- VCL Emeritus
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Just a gentle reminder to keep your suggestions civil and on topic. No edition wars, please. Thanks. 
Quentin Small
WotC Online Community Coordinator
All around helpful simian
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2 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2011 - 1:50PM
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Date Joined:
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Since this is instructional in nature, it would be best if the guide assumed that the people reading this guide know nothing about terminology such as What "Core" means, and the difference between "Adventures" and "Settings". Heck, I didn't know what they meant until I came here. So a little information (Core books are the base rules, and include player rules for races and classes, DM rules for trap building, encounter design, effective player motivation, custom monster design, etc and rules and information for prebuilt monsters) next to the different categories of previously published materials before Essentials would give the newest player what they need to make informed decisions. That means that this guide would also be helped by a link to the unofficial glossary of terms that are used on these boards; that way the newbie has, again, the information to make informed decisions.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2011 - 3:11PM
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Jun 10, 2011
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Thank you for taking the time to post all this information in one thread. Very well done, and useful.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 11, 2011 - 6:10PM
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this favors essentials too much
+1 if I was introduced to the essentials products before the original 4e, I would get bored and leave D&D.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 12, 2011 - 12:44PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 29, 2009
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this favors essentials too much
I agree but understand why he did it.
In theory essentials IS SUPPOSED to be the new introduction to the game.
I would like to see a spoiler for the classes and races in the players handbooks though.
If you are going to make a lot of edits/updates I would not mind seeing a mention that REDBOX is not really for people who have played other RPGs in the past and looking into D&D. It's more for people who have never made a character and rolled dice before.
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