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2 years ago ::
Jun 07, 2011 - 7:25PM
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So a local game store just announced that the following books are now out of print:
Adventurer's Vault
Dungeon Delve
Dark Sun Campaign Setting
I have heard other game stores claim this as well but I have seen nothing from Wizards. While I have the Dark Sun Campaign Setting (and the other two books) I am a bit disappointed if this is true.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 08, 2011 - 5:04AM
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So a local game store just announced that the following books are now out of print:
Adventurer's Vault
Dungeon Delve
Dark Sun Campaign Setting
I have heard other game stores claim this as well but I have seen nothing from Wizards. While I have the Dark Sun Campaign Setting (and the other two books) I am a bit disappointed if this is true.
They never gave Dark Sun a chance, with that offline/online Character Builder fiasco, followed by Essentials. I think things really would have unfolded very differently if they'd handled all that better.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 08, 2011 - 8:47PM
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Jul 23, 2008
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It's true. My FLGS had problems getting the Dark Sun Campaign book 2 months after it was released. I never did ask if they got some more in.
These are diminished days. One print run and that's it. They say they are releasing less products to get a handle on the errata. While noble, it's a fabrication. Name a company under Hasbro who would pull the brakes on production on a product line that was selling off the hook? Simply put- if 4th was having strong sales we would be seeing more in the pipeline. Instead, D&D is not bringing in strong numbers, so they cut its production.
Anyone who simply believes that the cut in products is because Wizards said they wanted to focus on quality, is either naive or bleeds true Wizards blood.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 08, 2011 - 9:10PM
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Date Joined:
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OP: In 3ed, books went OP before I started playing, and I managed to get some.
Vaeron: Are you suggesting that they did not print off of the Dark Sun book because of Essentials/other things? That's the only way I can read this that doesn't translate into "Selling lots of books is bad business."
Hunterian: Settle down. You're confusing "releasing less new books" with the print runs of each new book. This thread isn't about WotC's publishing schedule, but about their printing schedule/capacity.
"People want balance but can't accept this homogenization that occurs as a result of that balance being implemented. then they complain that the fighter is weaker than the wizard ad nauseam.: - Teitan
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2 years ago ::
Jun 08, 2011 - 9:24PM
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I don't know where you are located that your retailer is making the claim as to things being out of print...
Alliance Distrubition still has Dungeon Delve and Dark Sun Campaign Setting in their catalogue, so there is at least still stock of them to be ordered by any store that uses one of the largest distribution companies I (a consumer) know of.
...though I believe that Adventurer's Vault is actually "gone" because I don't even see it in the catalogue as being out of stock.
Careful, man. That much logic might be illegal on the internet. - Salla
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2 years ago ::
Jun 09, 2011 - 4:04AM
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I don't know where you are located that your retailer is making the claim as to things being out of print...
Alliance Distrubition still has Dungeon Delve and Dark Sun Campaign Setting in their catalogue, so there is at least still stock of them to be ordered by any store that uses one of the largest distribution companies I (a consumer) know of.
...though I believe that Adventurer's Vault is actually "gone" because I don't even see it in the catalogue as being out of stock.
It's not a claim- it's a fact. It should go without saying but I guess I must point this out. Alliance Distribution, as one of the largest distributors, carries a mammoth stockpile. They could still be selling out of print books at normal price long after a book is out of print because- ready for it- they have a huge stockpile. It's putting 1 + 1 = 2 together, and it's not rocket science.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 09, 2011 - 4:19AM
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I don't know where you are located that your retailer is making the claim as to things being out of print...
Alliance Distrubition still has Dungeon Delve and Dark Sun Campaign Setting in their catalogue, so there is at least still stock of them to be ordered by any store that uses one of the largest distribution companies I (a consumer) know of.
...though I believe that Adventurer's Vault is actually "gone" because I don't even see it in the catalogue as being out of stock.
It's not a claim- it's a fact. It should go without saying but I guess I must point this out. Alliance Distribution, as one of the largest distributors, carries a mammoth stockpile. They could still be selling out of print books at normal price long after a book is out of print because- ready for it- they have a huge stockpile. It's putting 1 + 1 = 2 together, and it's not rocket science.
...you know that Alliance (at least used to) mark products as out of print in the catalogue so that retailers would be able to now that stock might be limited?
Beyond that, who told the retailer the product was out of print? WotC hasn't announced it, and they are the only ones that would actually be able to confirm that - anything else is just a claim someone is making.
There is 1 + 1 = 2 for you.
Careful, man. That much logic might be illegal on the internet. - Salla
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2 years ago ::
Jun 09, 2011 - 7:51AM
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I don't know where you are located that your retailer is making the claim as to things being out of print...
Alliance Distrubition still has Dungeon Delve and Dark Sun Campaign Setting in their catalogue, so there is at least still stock of them to be ordered by any store that uses one of the largest distribution companies I (a consumer) know of.
...though I believe that Adventurer's Vault is actually "gone" because I don't even see it in the catalogue as being out of stock.
It's not a claim- it's a fact. It should go without saying but I guess I must point this out. Alliance Distribution, as one of the largest distributors, carries a mammoth stockpile. They could still be selling out of print books at normal price long after a book is out of print because- ready for it- they have a huge stockpile. It's putting 1 + 1 = 2 together, and it's not rocket science.
...you know that Alliance (at least used to) mark products as out of print in the catalogue so that retailers would be able to now that stock might be limited?
Beyond that, who told the retailer the product was out of print? WotC hasn't announced it, and they are the only ones that would actually be able to confirm that - anything else is just a claim someone is making.
There is 1 + 1 = 2 for you.
Do you also need Wizards to confirm that the sky is blue? But fine, if you still refuse to ignore facts, then be happy in blissful ignorance. Didn't Wizards tell you 1+1= 1?
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2 years ago ::
Jun 09, 2011 - 8:01AM
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5th ed is on the way 
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2 years ago ::
Jun 09, 2011 - 8:17AM
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Date Joined:
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5th ed is on the way
Here's to hoping that it wil be nothing like Essentials.
The sycophants and EULA quoters aren't worth our time.
4E =/= Essentials; Essentials =/= 4E.
To WotC/DDI: GO "SOON" YOURSELVES.
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