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2 years ago ::
Jun 02, 2011 - 11:42PM
#31
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the only thing i wanted from this was some at-will boosting, my poor eldritch blast doesnt do anything.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2011 - 12:00AM
#32
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So its cool for Eldritch Blast to just be a shortranged longbow? I mean, I think this power is a contender for worst striker at-will in the game, and its forced into every lock build who doesnt want to be melee.
And...which warlock would that be? There's literally no character who shouldn't want a good MBA. Yes, this includes wizards and invokers.
True - there's no character who shouldn't want a good MBA - but there are plenty of builds where it isn't worth the feat slot to get it. Also, not everybody plays with a MBA granting leader.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2011 - 12:33AM
#33
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Sep 17, 2007
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So its cool for Eldritch Blast to just be a shortranged longbow? I mean, I think this power is a contender for worst striker at-will in the game, and its forced into every lock build who doesnt want to be melee.
And...which warlock would that be? There's literally no character who shouldn't want a good MBA. Yes, this includes wizards and invokers.
True - there's no character who shouldn't want a good MBA - but there are plenty of builds where it isn't worth the feat slot to get it. Also, not everybody plays with a MBA granting leader.
Name one. I feel very very sckeptical about there existing a single build that wouldn't want to considerably shorten encounters. There's such a titanic difference between having a good MBA and not having one that I don't believe you. Unless I'm very wrong, every single leader can grant MBAs.
Mountain Cleave Rule: You can have any sort of fun, including broken, silly fun, so long as I get to have that fun too (e. g., if you can warp reality with your spells, I can cleave mountains with my blade).
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2 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2011 - 12:37AM
#34
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all I can say is my (assault)swordmage|warlock defender/striker would love being able to use curse damage with my mark, 4d8+mods, slide 4 is awsome. I might even be grated more attacks 
Insulting someones grammar on a forum is like losing to someone in a drag race and saying they were cheating by having racing stripes.
Not only do the two things not relate to each other (the logic behind the person's position, and their grammar) but you sound like an idiot for saying it (and you should, because its really stupid )
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2 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2011 - 12:38AM
#35
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Date Joined:
Sep 17, 2007
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If you're using Eldritch Blast at all, it's probably because you're an Eladrin or Shadar-Kai who's tacked a ton of modifiers and accuracy boosters onto it.
If whats supposed to the class' core at-will is so bad that its ownly picked when you Op it through the roof, then something is wrong with the class's core at-will.
There is. That's why you get the "make my leader happy 'cause stuff now dies in two rounds less" at-will and don't look back. Eldritch Blast is a flop; There's no use crying over it when it has a replacement.
Forcing a ranged caster into melee, with a warlord in tow, in order to get their damage up is bad design.
And you triggered my trapcard. Allow me to be a teensy bit smug here, no offense intended. 
Like I said above, literally every single leader can grant MBAs unless I'm seriously off the mark. And no, I'm not talking about "make a basic attack" powers here. For this reason there's really no reason not to want a good MBA, as a competent party can spam all day erryday and get two attacks a round.
And now a quick note: I agree with you guys that Eldritch Blast shouldn't suck. That it should be good. That fishing for an at-will hidden in a minis pack is pathetic. But there's no fix to make Eldritch Blast competitive that doesn't overpower it or fundamentally change what it does. Extra die? Cool beans, you'll still take Eldritch Strike or attack with something else every single round. More range? Yeah, like you're using it. Attacking a weaker defense? Useless when you hit every single other defense turn in and turn out with those encounter powers. "Apply all modifiers twice", an effect that doesn't exist and would make it Twin Strike on roids? Still would make it merely a competitive choice and not a superior one to Eldritch Strike. Eldritch Blast is broken bad, bros. Time to let go and hope the warlock gets new and more abusable at-wills for Twofold Pact.
Mountain Cleave Rule: You can have any sort of fun, including broken, silly fun, so long as I get to have that fun too (e. g., if you can warp reality with your spells, I can cleave mountains with my blade).
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2 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2011 - 12:40AM
#36
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Date Joined:
Dec 31, 2007
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Name one. I feel very very sckeptical about there existing a single build that wouldn't want to considerably shorten encounters. There's such a titanic difference between having a good MBA and not having one that I don't believe you. Unless I'm very wrong, every single leader can grant MBAs.
According to the Compendium, Clerics have exactly four powers that grant (M)BAs. Three of them Daily, two level 5 and one level 19, and the last a level 23 Encounter. If you're playing with a Cleric as your only leader before mid-Epic, odds are pretty good that you don't get granted MBAs each combat.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2011 - 12:42AM
#37
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runepriests do not grant attacks, they just make yours better
Insulting someones grammar on a forum is like losing to someone in a drag race and saying they were cheating by having racing stripes.
Not only do the two things not relate to each other (the logic behind the person's position, and their grammar) but you sound like an idiot for saying it (and you should, because its really stupid )
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2 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2011 - 12:57AM
#38
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Date Joined:
Sep 17, 2007
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runepriests do not grant attacks, they just make yours better
EmpactWB not seeing through my veil of lies
Do they not have a single power that pulls, pushes or slides, those two classes? If so I'll concede defeat and lol at the runepriest and cleric.
Mountain Cleave Rule: You can have any sort of fun, including broken, silly fun, so long as I get to have that fun too (e. g., if you can warp reality with your spells, I can cleave mountains with my blade).
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2 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2011 - 12:58AM
#39
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O they do but they dont want you to know about them
Insulting someones grammar on a forum is like losing to someone in a drag race and saying they were cheating by having racing stripes.
Not only do the two things not relate to each other (the logic behind the person's position, and their grammar) but you sound like an idiot for saying it (and you should, because its really stupid )
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2 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2011 - 1:00AM
#40
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Date Joined:
Sep 17, 2007
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'k, so my point stands. Warlocks still want Eldritch Strike in every situation because lol at encounters when you can pull out two round of attacks per every actual round, or more with the right leaders.
Mountain Cleave Rule: You can have any sort of fun, including broken, silly fun, so long as I get to have that fun too (e. g., if you can warp reality with your spells, I can cleave mountains with my blade).
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