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Jun 16, 2011 -- 10:48AM, Jharii wrote:

Jun 16, 2011 -- 10:33AM, Dane_McArdy wrote:

Trolling is a big no no of the CoC

So is accusing others of trolling.  Feel free to report their posts.

Another person who thinks they run the forums. Who I also know has been personally told to stop stalking and harassing posters.

On this topic, all I can say is this:

I bought WotC to make my games better.  I thought 4E, although not traditional D&D, was fun and found that the inclusion of new books, figures and Insider materials produced through the end of the PHB era was making my games more fun at a level that was worth the cost.

Then, around the time of Essentials, it became clear to me that each dollar I spent was no longer improving my games. 

If I used Essentials materials it might be fun.  However, it would not be more fun than using the stuff I had already paid to own.  Why pay for something that doesn't give me a better situation?

However, I had over 30 years experience buying TSR/WotC products and having them increase my pleasure in gaming.  So i've been watching.  And waiting.  I want to see WotC say somethig to me that will make me believe that they're making products that are worth my money.  Products that will make me happier because I bought them.

Essentials doesn't fit the bill.  They are just rehashes of the classes I already have - using mechanics that are inferior.  Most of the Insider content is likely useless to me for the same reason, althoug I could be wrong.  Nothing I've noted has given me enough incentive to pay for an Insider subscription again to find out if the newer stuff is any good.

The new CB and MV are not useful to me.  As I'm not using Essentials, I can get by with the old offline versions just fine.

The new VTT would have once been a welcome addition to my gaming, but the folks I knew that wanted to play online either use other systems that they love, or have lost interest in online games. 

With nothing else of significance announced, I have little hope that WotC will earn more of my money soon.  That does make me sad, but if I am honest, I don't know if I can come up with a product WotC could release that would improve my gaming experience at a cost effective price for them. 

Jun 16, 2011 -- 10:33AM, Dane_McArdy wrote:

The Orcs can't say those posts that are clearly trolling having been reported, because they have. Mostly they just get deleted.

Which supports my view that Pro people are allowed to get away with breaking the CoC, because WoTC is letting them do and say what they know they can't. Namely try and shut up people that raise valid good questions about DDi, and WoTC policy.

I've just got to weigh in on this: there's a level of tolerance for certain behavior on these forums which is entirely unacceptable.  At one point an individual graphically and without question assaulted my sexuality, informing me that I should recive sodomy as an alternative to disagreeing with WotC policy.  The post was deleted, but the poster was still posting the next day: no ban was ever applied.

Regardless of my sexual orientation, in my opinion, that's the kind of behavior that should result in immediate dismissal.  Would I have gotten away with that, if it was me saying something similar to a supporter?  I really seriously doubt it.

My point: due to the opinions we hold, we can't count on the moderators to defend us from unfair attacks of any kind.  The best we can do is appeal to those who attack us as human beings, and ask people on both sides of the debate to attempt to remain civil.  The example above is extreme: any Ad Hominem attacks are innapropriate in any debate. 

I'm no saint: I know I've done it too.  We're all human beings, and it's easy to get caught up in our own anonymity and the facelessness of those we disagree with.  All I'm asking for is that we try just a little harder.  "If you think I'm trolling, just report me" is not the way adults should interact with one another.