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2 years ago  ::  May 30, 2011 - 11:43AM #31
pnxer
Date Joined: Sep 12, 2008
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Some things I would like for the Fey:

Wilden, Gnome and I'll say it though I don't expect a Goblin racial revisions/expansions/general love

For the Bard a Courtier with a focus on the sorts of social skills that were always the class prerogative in the past, representing an Eladrin tradition of navigating the Fey Courts.

For the Thief/Scoundrel, a set of fey tricks specific to the Gnomes of the fey groves, reaching behind their own ear to reveal the evil wizards stolen amulet that was around his neck a moment before with a sly grin.

For the Mage the school of Transmutation (a witch of the feywild isn't complete without a copious set of powers that turn enemies into things a la Slimy T.)

For the Druid and the Seeker a selection of new seasons and spirits to call on.

A selection of feats to allow more mundane creatures access to the Fey Courts as a social hierarchy that grants certain powers (A Page, Knight, Noble progression prehaps)

A feyset class similar to Vampire, perhaps a Changeling defender that assumes a defense bonus specific to the enemy it mirrors and a power to knock enemies prone with a Tricker's Mark or Aura.
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2 years ago  ::  May 30, 2011 - 4:14PM #32
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May 30, 2011 -- 9:57AM, excalainen wrote:

What exactly is the connection between arcane magic and Feywild? Do arcanists somehow draw power from Feywild?



Arcane magic permeates the entirity of exstence. However the place with the strongest concentration of arcane energy is the feywild. To put it one way, the feywild is an arcane reflection of the world. While not everyone in the feywild is able to access the "arcane power source" nearly everything in the feywild was either born of or draws upon arcane energy. That is why the realm is so fantastical and "magical".

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2 years ago  ::  May 30, 2011 - 5:04PM #33
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Just as Primal magic surrounds and sustains the natural world, and Shadow magic wells from the darklands of the Shadowfell, Arcane magic permeates the Feywild, and has since the beginning of the plane.  Arcane Leylines stretch across the plane, drawing fonts of magical power.  While Arcane magic exists everywhere, and allows the science of magic to exist, it is most prevalent in the Feywild.  Just entering the plane is like stepping into a richer, more beautiful, more magical version of the world. 
A great man once said "If WotC put out boxes full of free money there'd still be people complaining about how it's folded." – Boraxe

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2 years ago  ::  May 30, 2011 - 9:24PM #34
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May 25, 2011 -- 11:34PM, MartianAlien wrote:

May 25, 2011 -- 8:50PM, sfdragon wrote:

lots of things can be retconned between now and then..... and minds changed as what sounded cool two months ago..... may sound like trash now.



Not really - WotC has noted in the past that their development cycle for a new book is in excess of a year, so with 5 months to go the material should be in the late playtest, editing, and layout stages in preparation for going to print a couple months before its release date. There's not a lot they can pull in at this point; the only analogous instance would be the addition of the Vampire and conversion to hardback of Heroes of Shadow which pushed it back a month on the schedule. If Heroes of the Feywild is going to be released in November (as listed by Amazon, et al) then they've only got two or three months left for development on the material. Not enough time to be changing out whole sections of a book.


From interviews and podcasts we know that HOF and Book of Vile Darkness are both not getting the 12+ month development cycle, the books werent even in planning until the dropping of the other 3 books due this year.  

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2 years ago  ::  May 31, 2011 - 12:55AM #35
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May 30, 2011 -- 9:24PM, Tigger11 wrote:

From interviews and podcasts we know that HOF and Book of Vile Darkness are both not getting the 12+ month development cycle, the books werent even in planning until the dropping of the other 3 books due this year.  


Well, given where the other books that had accelerated schedules under the current R&D team (HotFL, HotFK, HoS) fell on the quality spectrum, I'd suggest everyone start setting their expectation level to "abysmally low" Tongue out so that the upcoming books have a chance to come in as better-than-expected. Wink

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2 years ago  ::  May 31, 2011 - 9:02AM #36
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May 31, 2011 -- 12:55AM, MartianAlien wrote:

May 30, 2011 -- 9:24PM, Tigger11 wrote:

From interviews and podcasts we know that HOF and Book of Vile Darkness are both not getting the 12+ month development cycle, the books werent even in planning until the dropping of the other 3 books due this year.  


Well, given where the other books that had accelerated schedules under the current R&D team (HotFL, HotFK, HoS) fell on the quality spectrum, I'd suggest everyone start setting their expectation level to "abysmally low"  so that the upcoming books have a chance to come in as better-than-expected.




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2 years ago  ::  May 31, 2011 - 9:27AM #37
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My expectation is that Heroes of the Feywild will follow Heroes of Shadow at least in style.  So where HoS took the opportunity to delve into more horror and anithero material, HotF can did into faerie tales and fantastical adventures.

My hope is that this means more tools for running fairy tale type adventures, especially for kids who have watched Disney movies.  The #1 missing element for me is the ability to play a fairy.  It would be awesome to have a player race of this type.  I mean, look at the product WotC released for kids about the Feywild: A Practical Guide to Fairies!

I envision a Fairy as a small sized creature (shorter than any so far) with wings but who generally doesn't fly very high off the ground.  The schtick could encompass shrinking down to fly around but losing any real combat ability (a-la the good fairies in Sleeping Beauty).
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2 years ago  ::  May 31, 2011 - 9:41PM #38
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May 25, 2011 -- 11:34PM, MartianAlien wrote:

May 25, 2011 -- 8:50PM, sfdragon wrote:

lots of things can be retconned between now and then..... and minds changed as what sounded cool two months ago..... may sound like trash now.



Not really - WotC has noted in the past that their development cycle for a new book is in excess of a year, so with 5 months to go the material should be in the late playtest, editing, and layout stages in preparation for going to print a couple months before its release date. There's not a lot they can pull in at this point; the only analogous instance would be the addition of the Vampire and conversion to hardback of Heroes of Shadow which pushed it back a month on the schedule. If Heroes of the Feywild is going to be released in November (as listed by Amazon, et al) then they've only got two or three months left for development on the material. Not enough time to be changing out whole sections of a book.




and by the time it took to post mine and for you to quote it, you should know that with each passing moment, I'm sure that the book has long finished passing its finishing developmentsmoments.

which makes both mine and your comments redundant.

as I said what sounded cool then may not now, by then I mean when it was first thought of, and by now I mean 4 months down the road from original thought.

and when we get the finnal product it wont matter as there will be people griping about it just the same.

dont deny it, you know it to be true....

a mask everyone has at least two of, one they wear in public and another they wear in private.....
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2 years ago  ::  Jul 16, 2011 - 12:03PM #39
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May 31, 2011 -- 9:27AM, Goken100 wrote:

My expectation is that Heroes of the Feywild will follow Heroes of Shadow at least in style.  So where HoS took the opportunity to delve into more horror and anithero material, HotF can did into faerie tales and fantastical adventures.

My hope is that this means more tools for running fairy tale type adventures, especially for kids who have watched Disney movies.  The #1 missing element for me is the ability to play a fairy.  It would be awesome to have a player race of this type.  I mean, look at the product WotC released for kids about the Feywild: A Practical Guide to Fairies!

I envision a Fairy as a small sized creature (shorter than any so far) with wings but who generally doesn't fly very high off the ground.  The schtick could encompass shrinking down to fly around but losing any real combat ability (a-la the good fairies in Sleeping Beauty).




How about this: A Wizard or a Warlock can have an imp familiar, right? Fairy Familiar! That would be cool.

I don't see any reason why there couldn't be a Fey Sorcerer. Sorcerers draw power from their bloodline, right? Well, Fey are notorious cross-breeders. Makes sense to me.

I do love the idea of a Feytouched Rogue. Anywhere from dabbling to a full-on "thief-mage" "Arcane Trickster" style character. 

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 19, 2011 - 10:12PM #40
egg_thallid_sandwich
Date Joined: Jan 29, 2007
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Jul 16, 2011 -- 12:03PM, cerberuspuppy wrote:

May 31, 2011 -- 9:27AM, Goken100 wrote:

My expectation is that Heroes of the Feywild will follow Heroes of Shadow at least in style.  So where HoS took the opportunity to delve into more horror and anithero material, HotF can did into faerie tales and fantastical adventures.

My hope is that this means more tools for running fairy tale type adventures, especially for kids who have watched Disney movies.  The #1 missing element for me is the ability to play a fairy.  It would be awesome to have a player race of this type.  I mean, look at the product WotC released for kids about the Feywild: A Practical Guide to Fairies!

I envision a Fairy as a small sized creature (shorter than any so far) with wings but who generally doesn't fly very high off the ground.  The schtick could encompass shrinking down to fly around but losing any real combat ability (a-la the good fairies in Sleeping Beauty).




How about this: A Wizard or a Warlock can have an imp familiar, right? Fairy Familiar! That would be cool.

I don't see any reason why there couldn't be a Fey Sorcerer. Sorcerers draw power from their bloodline, right? Well, Fey are notorious cross-breeders. Makes sense to me.

I do love the idea of a Feytouched Rogue. Anywhere from dabbling to a full-on "thief-mage" "Arcane Trickster" style character. 



i think a fairy familiar already exists, last time i played LFR a player at my table told me he had one. it must be dragon article content. judging by the cover there will be a fairy dragon familiar. i'm with you on the fey sorcerer but not sure how likely that is now that we know that the elemental book is going to have sorcerer stuff. still could happen i guess? your feytouched trickster interests me. isnt the gnome PP called fey trickster though? so this idea needs a new name. cant call it rouge unless its a subclass, that i can see. the more i think about it however the closer i get to fey hexblade so maybe i'll just back off.

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