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2 years ago ::
May 16, 2011 - 12:43PM
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Do we have any more detailed information on the upcoming Feywild book? More specifically, will the classes and builds in it follow classic 4e or Essentials format? I hope to see more options for old AEDU classes like sorcerers and bards that haven't seen much love since Essentials.
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2 years ago ::
May 16, 2011 - 7:42PM
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Jan 29, 2007
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I don't think anything is confirmed yet but you can bet there will be new options for both preE and essentials classes. New classes will most likely be presented in essentials format but that doesn't mean that if there is a new sorcerer build it can't use old sorcerer spells nor that your old sorcerer can't likewise enjoy using the new build's spell options.
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2 years ago ::
May 16, 2011 - 8:53PM
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I don't know about most people, but I thoroughly enjoy the essentials classes. They feel more role oriented than pre-e classes, which is nicer for people who just want to play the game instantly more than be super customizable. That doesn't mean I only pick essential classes though, just that its good for a fast game.
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2 years ago ::
May 17, 2011 - 3:42PM
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Feb 10, 2009
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I don't think anything is confirmed yet but you can bet there will be new options for both preE and essentials classes. New classes will most likely be presented in essentials format but that doesn't mean that if there is a new sorcerer build it can't use old sorcerer spells nor that your old sorcerer can't likewise enjoy using the new build's spell options.
That's not necessarily true since Essentials fighters and classic fighters aren't very compatible for instance.
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2 years ago ::
May 17, 2011 - 4:11PM
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Jan 29, 2007
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weaponmasters and knights may share utility powers. a knight who wants a weaponmaster power may get a feat that allows them to exchange a second use of power strike for one. its a bit of a run around but it is possible. so knights/weaponmasters and rangers/scouts+hunters aside classes whos essentials counterparts get to make alot of choices like the wizard (soon to be arcanist) and cleric (now templar) still gain access to those new powers. have you noticed when you make a cleric you can choose warpriest powers? even domain powers! no feat necessary. the old warlock aswell may choose hexblade and binder powers with a few restrictions. none that require a specific pactblade and the power must have a level, so no binder at wills. which basically limits them to binder encounter powers and hexblade/binder dailies. my binder uses a hexblade daily cuz i didn't like the ones in HoS. i have no doubts that if there were a new sorcerer build in the works it would be compatable with the old builds.
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2 years ago ::
May 20, 2011 - 4:32PM
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weaponmasters and knights may share utility powers. a knight who wants a weaponmaster power may get a feat that allows them to exchange a second use of power strike for one. its a bit of a run around but it is possible.
Thats "not very compatible," yes.
The sorcerer isn't terribly fey, anyhow, more likely we'll see more fey-pact warlock (hexblade) stuff.
There will, of course, be new schools and/or builds for the Mage.
I have no doubts that if there were a new sorcerer build in the works it would be compatable with the old builds.
/If/ there's a sorcerer sub-class, there are no guarantees. The Sorcerer was a sort of alternate mechanical wizard, before. It's unlikely to be mechanically similar to the wizard, this time around. It might have a pre-chosen at will, multi-use encounter, standard daily structure, or it might even spam & modify some basic attack spell. It might have yet another entirely novel mechanic. The new design philosophy includes mechanically differentiating classes, afterall.
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2 years ago ::
May 20, 2011 - 7:03PM
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Jul 22, 2002
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On Amazon its listed as a paperback. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this? If so will it be like the Heroes of the... books? Also, if they went that route then why didn't they do that with HoS? I expected the fey book to be hardback as well. Thanks if anyone can answer this.
Gryphonclaw
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2 years ago ::
May 21, 2011 - 5:59AM
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As far ase new builds are concerned, I asume they are going to do the Druid of Autumn and the Druid of Winter builds for the Sentinel(Druid)...
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2 years ago ::
May 21, 2011 - 7:19AM
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Jul 22, 2002
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That would probably be a good idea Obvious_Ninja. I would like to see those. However, I am still wondering if it will be in paperback and if it is what Wizards was thinking when they decided to go that route.
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2 years ago ::
May 21, 2011 - 10:41AM
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Sep 14, 2005
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That would probably be a good idea Obvious_Ninja. I would like to see those. However, I am still wondering if it will be in paperback and if it is what Wizards was thinking when they decided to go that route.
Purely a guess but if you look at the Amazon listing, the page count is 320 pages. This is the same (roughly) size count that the original entry for Hero's of Shadow-- Paperback, physical dimensions were the same as HotFG, RC, etc. It was, of course, adjusted to the hardback size and the page count was adjusted as the book was reformatted to fit the new physical size.
I can only assume they are doing the same... again, just a guess...
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