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2 years ago  ::  May 07, 2011 - 10:29PM #1
Planeswalker_Demosthenes
Date Joined: Jan 9, 2004
Posts: 97
What happened to the whole issue PDFs of Dungeon and Dragon magazines?  When and why did they switch over to single article PDFs?

I liked being able to read through a whole back issue AS a whole back issue.  Having them all split into separate files just seems to break flow to me.
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2 years ago  ::  May 08, 2011 - 12:49AM #2
thespaceinvader
Date Joined: Oct 28, 2010
Posts: 9,667
Yes, they did drop the compilations.
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2 years ago  ::  May 08, 2011 - 10:48AM #3
Planeswalker_Demosthenes
Date Joined: Jan 9, 2004
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But why?  They were so nice, and made it seem more like a magazine rather than a random collection of online articles.
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2 years ago  ::  May 08, 2011 - 11:23AM #4
mcmillan
Date Joined: Aug 24, 2010
Posts: 158
There's lots of posts dealing with this issue already. Short answer is they said they found people more people tended to download single articles rather than full issues, so they'd rather put resources into other tasks instead of compiling them.
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2 years ago  ::  May 09, 2011 - 11:23AM #5
Diceman65
Date Joined: Jun 18, 2008
Posts: 118

There's lots of posts dealing with this issue already. Short answer is they said they found people more people tended to download single articles rather than full issues, so they'd rather put resources into other tasks instead of compiling them.




Thing is, most people probably downloaded the articles individually because  they didn't come out all at once. They spread them out over the entire month (which was lazy in my opinion) and most people didnt want to wait an extra month for the complilation.  So yeah, most people did download the individual articles because there was no option to download the complete issue for  the first 30 days.

On top of that if you did wait for the complilations like I did,  you had to jump through a lot of hoops to find the link to dowload the compiled version compared to the individual articles until relatively recently when they finally started putting a huge button at the top of the issue one month after it came out.


This was the last nail in the coffin for me and I have already disabled my auto-renew from happening at the end fo June. 


For me the changes WoTC have made since last fall have all been about limiting  customer's unility of a paid service. Making CB, MB, online only with a handful of features from the offline versions, no compiled issues of the magazines and the entire shift to essentials (disguised 4.5E in my opinion) combined for me to decide to throw in the towel on supporting DDI.  


The lack of a compiled issues is just plain LAZY in my opinion. 



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2 years ago  ::  May 10, 2011 - 4:43AM #6
NealMac
Date Joined: Jul 8, 2009
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My request is that someone from WotC actually make a decision on the issue for real and true and make a statement to that fact. The last official statement was along the lines of 'We're looking at the issue and will make a decision based on feedback from you.' Well, it's been over three months, let the people know what you decided. Customer Service is tired of hearing from me I'm sure.
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2 years ago  ::  May 10, 2011 - 6:50AM #7
kenjoon
Date Joined: Sep 13, 2007
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May 10, 2011 -- 4:43AM, NealMac wrote:

My request is that someone from WotC actually make a decision on the issue for real and true and make a statement to that fact. The last official statement was along the lines of 'We're looking at the issue and will make a decision based on feedback from you.' Well, it's been over three months, let the people know what you decided. Customer Service is tired of hearing from me I'm sure.



You've failed your perception roll.  NO reponse IS a response.  The response is "We're not going to change anything at this time".  It's kinda like the 4e ruleset (exception based).  Unless the rules say you can't, you can.  Or in this case, unless they make an announcement saying they will bring them back, they won't.

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2 years ago  ::  May 10, 2011 - 7:06AM #8
NealMac
Date Joined: Jul 8, 2009
Posts: 224
Ha...perception roll...

Seriously though, I don't care if they do or not at this point, I can just as easily get them from other sources (doing it myself, having a friend do it, etc...) It's the principle of the thing. Treat me like an adult and tell me the truth. Don't hide behind a wall of silence because someone on the internet might hurt your feelings with harsh words about a policy that you probably had no control over. WotC needs to put on the big boy pants and make a statement about their final decision.
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2 years ago  ::  May 10, 2011 - 8:56AM #9
DrNick
Date Joined: Oct 30, 2008
Posts: 2,353
I actually would prefer it this way if they made searching for articles easier.

I mean, the annoying thing about compiled zines is that if I want to find the Gnoll article I have to remember which issue of Dragon it's in.  
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2 years ago  ::  May 10, 2011 - 12:33PM #10
Paulon
Date Joined: May 12, 2006
Posts: 1,469
As things previously stood you had the option to search the individual articles, while the people who wanted compilations had them.

Now you've still got the same option to search individual articles that you always had, as per your own preferences, but the people who want compilations have lost them. I fail to see how the current status is the superior position in terms of overall customer service and satisfaction.
First thing for people working on providing new features should remember:

People hate change for the sake of change. They usually don't mind genuine improvements, but change just because it's change and therefore cool tends to get hackles raised.

Second thing for people working on providing new 'improved' features should remember:

It shouldn't be hard for users to figure out how to turn them off if they don't like them. Just because the programmer thinks he's had a great idea doesn't mean everyone else is going to agree with them.
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