I'm not sure if you can get the burst daze. Overwhelming Impact specifies melee attacks with a hammer. So close bursts wouldn't work...though it is labeled melee at the top, but I think the augment replaces that.
This is a neat build (and an excellent defender). I like the abilty to daze at-will and on OAs, and the multiple ways to interrupt attacks (including one that slides with no attack roll).
I haven't looked into the build in detail (it's hard for me to look stuff up from work, and I don't have Insider), so I'm not sure when each component of the build takes shape. What are the build's capabilities in early/mid/late heroic? It appears to start to kick butt in mid-paragon with Polearm Momentum, Polearm Gamble etc. If that's the case, then I recommend taking a few feats for damage and/or accuracy during Heroic so you can stay effective (as you say, the damage is a bit low). Then train them out as the more productive defender feats become available. This only applies, of course, if you're not starting in Paragon, in which case it's really not an issue.
This build doesn't do much or any pushing (instead does lots of slides), which means it probably would not benefit enough from Iron Vanguard even if it was worth giving up your BM Paragon for it. I think what you're doing with the slides is more than worth it though.
Very cool build. This weekend I look forward to looking up its components to see how it does it!
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This is a neat build (and an excellent defender). I like the abilty to daze at-will and on OAs, and the multiple ways to interrupt attacks (including one that slides with no attack roll).
I haven't looked into the build in detail (it's hard for me to look stuff up from work, and I don't have Insider), so I'm not sure when each component of the build takes shape. What are the build's capabilities in early/mid/late heroic? It appears to start to kick butt in mid-paragon with Polearm Momentum, Polearm Gamble etc. If that's the case, then I recommend taking a few feats for damage and/or accuracy during Heroic so you can stay effective (as you say, the damage is a bit low). Then train them out as the more productive defender feats become available. This only applies, of course, if you're not starting in Paragon, in which case it's really not an issue.
This build doesn't do much or any pushing (instead does lots of slides), which means it probably would not benefit enough from Iron Vanguard even if it was worth giving up your BM Paragon for it. I think what you're doing with the slides is more than worth it though.
Very cool build. This weekend I look forward to looking up its components to see how it does it!
Things just slowly come online from 1-30.
@ lvl 3, you get loadstone lure, which is your immobilize. @ lvl 4-5, you get you're main chunk of toughness. @ 6 you get to slide on all attacks @ lvl 7, you get lighntning rush, which will interupt (and slides). @ 11, you can can use it as an OA @ 12, you add prone to everything @ 14, you add another way to OA @ 16-20, you ramp up your accuracy @ 21, you become super tough @ 22, we shift after every attack @ 24-28, we get another interupt+slide @ 30, we shift a bit further.
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Hey mellored really cool build u got here, I was looking through the build and was wondering which at-will skill are u using to give the daze condition? I am also trying to build a prone/daze character but going with a Hybrid Ardent/Fighter multiclass into Assassin to take the Nightmare Master Feat and using demoralizing strike with a thunder greatspear and polearm momentum combo, but the way im doing it seems to be a bit more feat intensive so im just looking for other options.
Hey mellored really cool build u got here, I was looking through the build and was wondering which at-will skill are u using to give the daze condition? I am also trying to build a prone/daze character but going with a Hybrid Ardent/Fighter multiclass into Assassin to take the Nightmare Master Feat and using demoralizing strike with a thunder greatspear and polearm momentum combo, but the way im doing it seems to be a bit more feat intensive so im just looking for other options.
Level 8: Stormhawk's Vengeance Gives us a nice Catch-22 on our lightning rush.
Can someone walk me through the Catch-22 in this Stormhawk's Vengeance/Lightning Rush combo? I'm just not seeing it. As far as I can see, Stormhawk's Vengeance relies on an enemy dropping you to 0 or less, but there's nothing in Lightning Rush that seems to guarantee dropping you to 0 or less (just the augment 2 that makes you the target of the attack). Is that it? Thanks in advance! Cheers, VK.
Level 8: Stormhawk's Vengeance Gives us a nice Catch-22 on our lightning rush.
Can someone walk me through the Catch-22 in this Stormhawk's Vengeance/Lightning Rush combo? I'm just not seeing it. As far as I can see, Stormhawk's Vengeance relies on an enemy dropping you to 0 or less, but there's nothing in Lightning Rush that seems to guarantee dropping you to 0 or less (just the augment 2 that makes you the target of the attack). Is that it? Thanks in advance! Cheers, VK.
If they attack you, they could take damage (there's no major negitive for him dropping below 0). If they attack an ally, you lightning rush, you knock them away and prone.
Catch-22 is probably not the best description for it.
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