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Apr 30, 2011 -- 7:08AM, malisteen wrote:

marked-up books and messy stacks of errata print outs is itself the extra hassle that causes many players to not want to use the PHB or DMG anymore.  It's annoying.  Especially when every few months there's new errata, so you have to print out an entirely new packet of messy errata papers, and go through your book to make marks again.

I did it this way for a year or so, and then I through my copies of the original books in the back of the closet and never looked at them again.

I'm sorry if this seems harsh, but, just because you whine about a problem doesn't mean the problem exists.

May 5, 2011 -- 5:27AM, malisteen wrote:

Digging through multiple books and errata documents to dredge up the actual rules you need to play by in 4e is no less hasslesome then digging through paragraphs of fluff to try and find the game rules hidden in them in WoD.

At least, now, with Essentials, we can do the latter while still playing D&D. 

Apr 28, 2011 -- 8:09AM, malisteen wrote:

There's the 'essentials' product line - that's a 10 item line, and does not include 'heroes of shadow' or anything after.  That product line is called 'essentials' because its supposed to be the new starting point for new players as well as a line of 'evergreen' products that stay in production (where as HoS or pre-e books might rotate in and out of production after their existing stock is sold off).

There's also 'essentials' the design philosophy, which is what most of us on the boards are talking about when we complain about essentials stuff.  WotC has never referred to it this way, though.  They did say essentials was going to 'set the tone going forward'.  The design philosophy was intended to last past the specific essentials line, and they said as much to begin with.

That Heroes of Shadow, and presumably Heroes of the Feywild, look more like essentials books then pre-e books does not indicate any kind of 'lying' on the part of WotC.  We may not like it, but accusations of lying, or complaining about an '11th' essentials book like its some kind of betrayal is being a touch ridiculous.  Again, they did not say they were going to try a 10 product experiment and then go back to pre-e design.  They said there was going to be a new 10 product starting point that was going to set the design philosophy for everything else that comes after.

That's not so much the worry, I think just that WotC ahve had their essentials products out, now lets get back to where they were before. TBH, it really is time. They've got a nice set out (well, when HotF arrives), but there isn't anything set (not that there ever is) about the next line of non (and by non, I do specifically the new layout) essentials classes.

True, this isn't exactly a lie or conspiracy by WotC, but at the same time they are taking a nice backwards stance about it.

I won't go on to mention their huge release of board games. I do hope for their sake they're making enough money off that, because they did put a divide into dnd that a "new" essentials line really should have pull together.

As my previous post, they could have gone about an essentials line a lot smoother, it would have saved themselves a lot of grief and effort I'd think. Not to mention all this huff about the divide.

May 16, 2011 -- 10:10AM, tmacsmash wrote:

What is the bladesinger?

As far as anyone knows, it's a 4.5 design of some previously released class. Likely the sword mage. It coulod also be a bard like it was in 2nd ed.