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2 years ago  ::  Apr 22, 2011 - 8:53PM #1
MaximumHavoc
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DnDi_Large.pngDragon 398
Heroes of Shadow: Ki Focuses

By Rodney Thompson

Grab a new ki focus for your Heroes of Shadow vampire or assassin.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2011 - 1:59AM #2
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I have one question: why was this content cut from Heroes of Shadow in the first place?
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2011 - 4:00AM #3
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Good flavor as always from Mr. Thompson. The best part about these items is the big damage boost they'll give monks and pre-E assassins.

The damage bonus from shadow master really should scale with tier. At level 3 a bonus 5 damage is very nice, but at level 22 a bonus 5 damage is nothing special.

Quick question: would the damage re-rolls from the devastating Ki-Focus apply to shrouds? That would significantly increase the minimum damage of the shadow assassin.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2011 - 10:29AM #4
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These should not be behind the pay wall, nor should they have been cut from HoS, given how necessary they are for the executioner which was published in that book.  A new player who bought essentials and then picked up heroes of shadow would not be able to play that class out of the book.

Style: what damage re-rolls?  Devastating turns 1s and 2s into 3s, it doesn't re-roll them.  Otherwise, yes, it should work with shroud damage, since that is additional damage added to the attack rather then a separate damage roll.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 23, 2011 - 5:16PM #5
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Apr 23, 2011 -- 10:29AM, malisteen wrote:

These should not be behind the pay wall, nor should they have been cut from HoS, given how necessary they are for the executioner which was published in that book.  A new player who bought essentials and then picked up heroes of shadow would not be able to play that class out of the book.

Style: what damage re-rolls?  Devastating turns 1s and 2s into 3s, it doesn't re-roll them.  Otherwise, yes, it should work with shroud damage, since that is additional damage added to the attack rather then a separate damage roll.




The answer is easy they want you to drop money on the book, and then they want you to sub for a month of DDi.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2011 - 12:06AM #6
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Apr 23, 2011 -- 1:59AM, thespaceinvader wrote:

I have one question: why was this content cut from Heroes of Shadow in the first place?



Presumably because there's no way they could fit it into a single page for the book.  From my understanding, printing costs on the publisher's end have various brackets, and going above 160 pages would have shot them up to the next bracket, at which point they might as well do like ... 180 or 200 pages or something.  And if they didn't have enough material to fill out those pages, then they'd be forced to do like 162 or 163 pages at the 180+ page price, which is wasted money for them, and they'd be forced to charge that higher price at retail, which is wasted money for us.

I know people will say things like "More Vampire options!," but that would have required more development time they didn't have, and would have messed up their already messed up schedule.

Apr 23, 2011 -- 10:29AM, malisteen wrote:

These should not be behind the pay  wall, nor should they have been cut from HoS, given how necessary they  are for the executioner which was published in that book.  A new player  who bought essentials and then picked up heroes of shadow would not be  able to play that class out of the book.



Agreed.  About the paywall that is.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2011 - 7:05AM #7
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Maybe instead of including 2 sets of descriptive text for every single power in the book, they could have fit one page of Ki-Focus items, some more Vampire options or maybe even some Shade feats.  

I was disappointed with the book, but am overall content [have come to terms with] with the content.  Ki-Focuses should have absolutely been in the book, no question.  The fact that they are so few and behind the pay wall in Dragon actually just prevented me from subscribing.  

I was literally about to have to subscribe again to run a campaign, but this is too insulting.  There was once a company that would give out web enhancements for books that had extra material that did not make it to print.  There were many poor decisions made in formatting and choosing what to include, or what not to include, in Heroes of Shadow.

Edit:  The word "content" just had to go. 
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2011 - 9:03PM #8
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So this is a single page that they couldn't find space for how about the full page revenant picture on 118 it is awesome but not really needed while these are.

or the shade not like those 5 page were really needed.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 25, 2011 - 6:41AM #9
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I'm just excited to have something to add to my common item database for the first time in five months-- the last ones published were the weird elf potions from DRA393.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 26, 2011 - 12:49AM #10
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Apr 24, 2011 -- 9:03PM, Entropy-Rising wrote:

So this is a single page that they couldn't find space for how about the full page revenant picture on 118 it is awesome but not really needed while these are.

or the shade not like those 5 page were really needed.



Can't help but agree.  Whilst I like the art in the game books, and I think it's very valuable to have lots of high quality artwork made for the game... quite a lot of the artwork is reprints.  I'd far, FAR prefer to have a page of rules (especially ones which were dropped then stuck behind the DDI paywall) than a page of picture(s).

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