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2 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2011 - 5:37PM
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Could also rate the powers on how useful they are for others to steal  Specially the HE using adept dil. to ghetto MC. The dex based MBA will be big for some builds. The only downside is that it's a implement attack, but eh, we'll see how it goes.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2011 - 5:47PM
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I have never been more keen to read one of the handbooks of this board.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2011 - 6:01PM
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Date Joined:
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This guide is dripping with win.
So I just now read someone saying that the Vampire'll have implement attacks based on CHA? Hmmm...agreed that a DEX/CHA race will be optimal and I can go off some off the top of my head.
Halfling (lolsmallvampire)
Drow (sexy elf vampire)
Changeling (that shapeshifting effect could come up more often in a campaign if you're caught biting someone)
Goblin (eww...)
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2 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2011 - 6:59PM
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Ha. I approve of this guide.
But what is there to even say for the Vampire? Your class-based choices are limited to two utility levels. There's only one class paragon path. There's no class feats. Multiclassing for powers will negate your striker damage on those powers. You have to have high Dexterity and high Charisma to make sure all of your powers are useful, and that means that you don't have a lot of wiggle room for ability score spread (or race choice, since those boosts will matter quite a bit).
This is going to be one short guide.
I don't use emoticons, and I'm also pretty pleasant. So if I say something that's rude or insulting, it's probably a joke.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2011 - 7:05PM
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To be honest, that's why I'm comfortable writing it. I'm not that great at optimization outside of skills, so the only thing I feel I could do justice is something like this.
Also, doing the handbook lets me pick exactly how much Iconic Vampire will be in it. C'est-a-dire, a lot.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2011 - 7:07PM
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This is going to be one short guide.
There is nothing short about Iconic Vampire.
I killed Aleena.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2011 - 7:22PM
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Here's the numbers on those implement attacks. (:
Dexterity Attacks
1 Melee-1 vs Fort At-Will
1 Melee-1 vs Reflex At-Will
2 Close blast 3 vs Fortitude Daily
2 Melee-1 vs Reflex Encounter
1 Close burst 1 vs Reflex Daily
1 Close blast 5 vs Fortitude Daily
Charisma (+2) Attacks
1 Ranged 5 vs Will At-Will
1 Ranged 5 vs Will Daily
1 Close burst 2 vs Will Daily (Beguiler Paragon Path lv20 power)
And then a reasonably complicated level 20 attack for the Stalker PP.
All of these powers are numbered, and some run in sequences of direct replacements of one another.
Swarm of Shadows (Lv 1) >> Hungry Swarm (Lv 15) >> Consuming Swarm (Lv 29)
Domineering Gaze (Lv 9) >> Irresistible Gaze (Lv 25)
This leads me to believe that further powers for the class will also run in sequences. Similar to the Warpriest and Cavalier/Blackguard domain/virtue/vice sequences.
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2 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2011 - 7:26PM
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Actually, the Races section of the Vampire class description talks about Halfling Vampires. Personally, I'm thinking about making a Shade Vampire, just because that would be awesome. I wish the Vampire class had a MC feat for it, but since it's written Essentials-style, there is no MC feat.  I guess half-elves in LFR get the best of this since they can retrain their racial power pick and get a Vampire at-will and then take Adept Dilletante to be multiclassed into it. Not sure if PMCing will be a viable option, but I guess a half-elf playing a CHA primary class could make off with the CHA+2 Vampire at-will and have it as an actual at-will power at paragon...
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2 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2011 - 7:28PM
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Apr 21, 2001
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Shade vampire? You're being ironic yes?
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2 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2011 - 8:18PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 10, 2005
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Shade vampire? You're being ironic yes?
Healing surges are for fools. Fools and liberals.
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