Community

Wizards seems to have decided to print the Warpriest as a wis-based melee cleric build, rather than actually support the PHB strength cleric, which is really too bad.  This is exactly why most Str clerics take Wis secondary... it seems like the best way to get power variety as a melee cleric would be to start with 18/18 str/wis and pick up weapon powers from both, and possibly the odd implement.  If you're Str/Cha (or str/wis but without much wis), you're pretty much stuck with the sad little list of strength powers you've got.

My battle cleric is a Dragonborn with a chr of 13. Having the next person to hit it gain 1 hp is not all that effective at Paragon. At 11th he has a STR of 22, CON of 16, and Wis of 16. With Priest's Shield and his bonuses from parts of his gear he normally gets +3 ac each turn, typically the +1 to an ally goes wasted since no one else is that near him. Earth's Endurance or Brand of the Sun would have been lovely if I had been able to use STR with them.

He is made to be self-sufficient, with Breath of Life giving allies STRMOD temps and Battle Healer to heal when he uses word on others or boost his healing when he uses it on himself, along with Shielding Word to protect some more. If he words himself after hitting with Shield and shifting his AC goes to 30, 34 if he used an AP, at 11th level in +2 chain and a light shield.

He's been rather effective as a tank and tactical healer. I just can't get any use out of most of the powers available. I don't even use Brand all that much recently, since I'm off-tanking and people are attacking other targets.

It would be nice if them would remember that there are STR based cleric still running around, although we are a little rare. Just adding STR or WIS to some of the new powers or remembering to add it to powers added from now on would be nice.

Mar 29, 2011 -- 5:45AM, Guest742363515 wrote:

My battle cleric is a Dragonborn with a chr of 13. Having the next person to hit it gain 1 hp is not all that effective at Paragon. At 11th he has a STR of 22, CON of 16, and Wis of 16. With Priest's Shield and his bonuses from parts of his gear he normally gets +3 ac each turn, typically the +1 to an ally goes wasted since no one else is that near him. Earth's Endurance or Brand of the Sun would have been lovely if I had been able to use STR with them.

He is made to be self-sufficient, with Breath of Life giving allies STRMOD temps and Battle Healer to heal when he uses word on others or boost his healing when he uses it on himself, along with Shielding Word to protect some more. If he words himself after hitting with Shield and shifting his AC goes to 30, 34 if he used an AP, at 11th level in +2 chain and a light shield.

He's been rather effective as a tank and tactical healer. I just can't get any use out of most of the powers available. I don't even use Brand all that much recently, since I'm off-tanking and people are attacking other targets.

It would be nice if them would remember that there are STR based cleric still running around, although we are a little rare. Just adding STR or WIS to some of the new powers or remembering to add it to powers added from now on would be nice.

16 Wisdom is plenty good enough to use Invigorating Assault, since you use mostly Priest Shield and not Righteous Brand. Sure 3 temp HP isn't much at Paragon but between that and a MBA I'll choose that one.

When I built the character 2 years ago it was perfectly valid. It would be really hard to raise my WIS up to be even with my STR in a race that has a bonus to 1 but not to the other stat. With access to only +2 prof weapons my chances of hitting would suffer.

If I was going to make a battle cleric these days I would probably use STR for a dump stat. You don't need it anymore in a melee cleric build. But he is an old build that I like the personality of.

And I don't really know or care who Andy Collins is.