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2 years ago  ::  Mar 27, 2011 - 3:19PM #1
spqr202
Date Joined: Mar 5, 2011
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I just called wotc (800) 324-6496 and asked them why they had stopped compiling the issuse of Dungeon and Dragon in a single pdf. This had really puzzled me because All the components for a full compiled issue are there - including the cover art. Assuming that the templates are already around, it should take little to no work to compile the issue into a single pdf.

The lady that I spoke with told me that they had made the decision because they found that people weren't using the compiled issue and were just downloading the individual articles.

Is this true? I'd like to hear back from you if you enjoy the compiled pdf.

If you don't download the compiled pdf but only download the individual issues, I'd like to hear whether you think that removing the compiled issue download as an option was a good idea.

Personally I like to read the issues on my ipad. It's a pain to download 10-15 separate pdfs per issue, and it just makes managing the issues much easier when it's a single file.

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 27, 2011 - 5:42PM #2
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Mar 27, 2011 -- 3:19PM, spqr202 wrote:

I just called wotc (800) 324-6496 and asked them why they had stopped compiling the issuse of Dungeon and Dragon in a single pdf. This had really puzzled me because All the components for a full compiled issue are there - including the cover art. Assuming that the templates are already around, it should take little to no work to compile the issue into a single pdf.

The lady that I spoke with told me that they had made the decision because they found that people weren't using the compiled issue and were just downloading the individual articles.

Is this true? I'd like to hear back from you if you enjoy the compiled pdf.

If you don't download the compiled pdf but only download the individual issues, I'd like to hear whether you think that removing the compiled issue download as an option was a good idea.

Personally I like to read the issues on my ipad. It's a pain to download 10-15 separate pdfs per issue, and it just makes managing the issues much easier when it's a single file.




We have gone over this over and over...

Not a single person on the forum is against compiled PDFs. It was a WotC decision based on what many consider faulty information. People would access the individual articles many times, then later download the compiled PDF one time. WotC said if there was enough of an uproar on the web they would re-instate the compilations. We called their bluff, they haven't done it. Yet another lie from WotC...

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 27, 2011 - 10:21PM #3
spqr202
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I'm guess people have tried calling too and spoken to somebody in person? The phone number is in my original post
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2 years ago  ::  Mar 28, 2011 - 8:03AM #4
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Mar 27, 2011 -- 10:21PM, spqr202 wrote:

I'm guess people have tried calling too and spoken to somebody in person? The phone number is in my original post




They told us to bug them on the forums, twitter, facebook or whatever if we wanted them back. There are 2 massive threads on wanting them back, and im sure twitter and facebook are full of Compiliation wanting people too.

They've responded to us with silence.

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 28, 2011 - 12:48PM #5
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What is funny is that one of the editorials for this week mentioned the "gnome effect", which is where even if a small percentage of people would be unsatisfied by leaving gnomes out, one should include them since it disenfranchises a large amount of players.

So, should they not include compilations based on the gnome effect?
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2 years ago  ::  Mar 29, 2011 - 5:18AM #6
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It's slightly different, you see you get rid of gnomes and that annoys one player and they pass that annoyance on to the group, but they continue to play D&D.

You get rid of compliations and that annoys one subscriber, who in my case stops subscribing, and stops running D&D for the whole group. 

See the difference there?
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2 years ago  ::  Mar 29, 2011 - 2:23PM #7
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Plus, there's a huge difference between choosing to leave something out that you haven't yet put in, and taking something away that you already have.

Failure to add new content irritates.  Removal of existing support... that's a step beyond.
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2 years ago  ::  Mar 30, 2011 - 7:27PM #8
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Just adding my post to the "This is dumb, WotC.  Bring back full-issue PDF's" so they don't think there "aren't enough people who want it."

Bring back full-issue PDF's.
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2 years ago  ::  Mar 31, 2011 - 11:25AM #9
spqr202
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Well personally I'm pretty convinced that the reason for the removal of the compiled pdfs had nothing to do with demand for them and everything to do with wotc realizing that they would soon have issues with blank pages because the articles were never written. Rather than compiling a pdf where half the pages just say IOU, they decided to pull the compiled pdfs witht he cover story that it was to better serve the customers. So yes, you all (and me) as the customers are ultimately to blame for the removal of the compiled pdfs apparently.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 01, 2011 - 6:03AM #10
r-kelleg
Date Joined: Feb 7, 2002
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this is the second dumbest idea since the removal of the offline character builder.
C'mon Wizards, give us the complete pdf back, damit!
 
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