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2 years ago  ::  Mar 18, 2011 - 10:09AM #21
Jay_Ibero_911
Date Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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On another skill related note, a Dragonborn hybrid+MC combination of a psionic, divine, and sorcerer with the Adamant Instructor PP and the Sorcerous Vision and Autohypnosis feats can use arcana in place of Insight, Perception, Diplomacy, and Endurance (while not bloodied). I can't think of any way to make that now AWFUL though, as you'd want high INT for arcana, CHA for MC sorcerer, and WIS for whatever divine class. A Dragonborn Paladin|Sorc MC Ardent would qualify for everything but would have crappy Arcana with no INT...

Ooh, an Arcane Trickster can use Arcana in place of Athletics, so we can replicate everything the acrobat can do but with Arcana, and can even MC sorc for Sorcerous Vision, and possibly squeeze in Autohypnosis too. I'll work on a skeleton build for that.
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2 years ago  ::  Mar 19, 2011 - 1:58PM #22
MisterArcane
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Pure-classed bard with three MC feats?

Psion|Invoker/Sorc?

Maybe a Half-elf using adapt Diletteante to remove the requirements on an MC feat?
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2 years ago  ::  Mar 19, 2011 - 2:38PM #23
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2 years ago  ::  Mar 19, 2011 - 3:49PM #24
Jay_Ibero_911
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Mar 19, 2011 -- 1:58PM, MisterArcane wrote:

Pure-classed bard with three MC feats?

Psion|Invoker/Sorc?

Maybe a Half-elf using adapt Diletteante to remove the requirements on an MC feat?




Hmm, a Cunning Bard MC Sorc/Rogue/Any Psionic/Arcane Trickster would do that pretty well while not requiring much in the way of power sacrifice. Would want reserve maneuver to swap out the PP encounter power for a cha based bard power, but otherwise a much more reasonable build.

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2011 - 10:15AM #25
MikeN
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High Imaskari background so you can roll Arcana twice on anything as well.  You'll lose out on some opportunity costs for what you could have done for a PP or some feats instead, but the concept is pretty nice.
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2 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2011 - 11:22AM #26
Jay_Ibero_911
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Mar 20, 2011 -- 10:15AM, MikeN wrote:

High Imaskari background so you can roll Arcana twice on anything as well.  You'll lose out on some opportunity costs for what you could have done for a PP or some feats instead, but the concept is pretty nice.




Yep, that's in there.

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10 months ago  ::  Sep 24, 2012 - 6:37PM #27
gomibako_ninja
Date Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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By mid-paragon, the best way to break down walls and stuff is probably as a Githzerai Shaman/MC Monk with the Ghost Panther PP (which gives your Wis mod to Athletics), Zuoken's centering (to use Wis instead of str for athletics) and, once per encounter, Speak with Spirits to add your Wis mod again!
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