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2 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 8:10PM #1
battles14
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I posted the following errata a month ago, when the first preview of Legion of Gold was posted. I'm severly disappointed that these errors (many of them lazy) were not corrected by the time the book went to print. If you want my hard-earned money, lack of attention to detail like this is unacceptable. WotC, please think about the extent to which quality control is affecting consumer attitudes toward your products.

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Jan 11, 2011 -- 11:11PM, battles14 wrote:

Let's hope the origins are going  through at least one more edit before they head to print. There are a  bunch of errors, both style and substance:

(1) The traits all say (Lv X), instead of (Level X).
(2) Effect of Luminous Shield is poorly written. Should probably read:

     "Until the end of your next turn, the target gains temporary hit points  equal to 5 + twice your level, and regains 10 additional hit points  when the target uses his or her second wind."


(3) Effect of Barrier of Light is poorly written; it is ambiguous whether an enemy making an attack  while adjacent to the wall is subject to the power's attack or the  enemy's own attack. Should probably read:

    "Whenever an enemy makes an attack while adjacent to the wall, repeat this power's attack again against the triggering enemy."

(4) Range of Eyes of the Vampire is improperly formatted. Should read: "Area burst 1 within 10 squares".
(5) Do What I Say has no target line. Should probably read "Target: One creature"

Here's hoping we can nip these errors in the bud before they go to print!!


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2 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 8:43PM #2
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Not sure a month's notice would be enough to fix a book put out in this large a release.  Not arguing it's okay to have these kinds of errors (can't delete all mistakes) but a month wouldn't likely have been advance notice enough to stop the presses.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 9:14PM #3
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Regardless, the "Lvl" typos were simple "find and replace" mistakes that a professional editing department should have caught and fixed.

The rest may have been a bit more insidious, but they were game rules format issues, which are REALLY important in WotC's line of work. But checking their rules formatting has never been WotC's forte. I mean, we're talking about a tradition that goes all the way back to the original Frozen Shade .
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 10:02PM #4
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You can't really expect much from a CCG company who is playing at RPGs and just pushing stuff out the door on a whim.

That said, I saw that they didn't fix the issues and figured that it was already too late. That and they probably send most of their editing to the toy department of the company.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 14, 2011 - 10:39PM #5
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Feb 14, 2011 -- 8:10PM, battles14 wrote:

I posted the following errata a month ago, when the first preview of Legion of Gold was posted. I'm severly disappointed that these errors (many of them lazy) were not corrected by the time the book went to print.




The books were most likely already printed or printing by the time you saw that preview.

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2011 - 6:59AM #6
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Feb 14, 2011 -- 8:10PM, battles14 wrote:

If you want my hard-earned money, lack of attention to detail like this is unacceptable.


Although I understand your frustration, I want to ask you about the validity of this threat. If you had known *before* you bought it that LoG would still contain the errors you had identified, would you really have considered not buying it?

Here are the PHB essentia, in my opinion:
  • Three Basic Rules (p 11)
  • Power Types and Usage (p 54)
  • Skills (p178-179)
  • Feats (p 192)
  • Rest and Recovery (p 263)
  • All of Chapter 9 [Combat] (p 264-295)

A player needs to read the sections for building his or her character -- race, class, powers, feats, equipment, etc. But those are PC-specific. The above list is for everyone, regardless of the race or class or build or concept they are playing.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2011 - 10:32AM #7
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Feb 15, 2011 -- 6:59AM, Seeker95 wrote:

If you had known *before* you bought it that LoG would still contain the errors you had identified, would you really have considered not buying it?


Heh... well, he's one of the few people that absolutely knew about the errors ahead of time

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2011 - 10:54AM #8
battles14
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Feb 15, 2011 -- 6:59AM, Seeker95 wrote:

Although I understand your frustration, I want to ask you about the validity of this threat. If you had known *before* you bought it that LoG would still contain the errors you had identified, would you really have considered not buying it?


I do not currently own Legion of Gold. I am seriously considering not buying it, particularly when compared to other products (Fortune Cards, Monster Vault) that are more well done.

I had a good feeling when I made the original post that the errors wouldn't be corrected. But that's beside the point. The point, as privateer and ChaoticGood have pointed out, is that most of the errors were inexcusable in the first place.

My "threat" wasn't designed to be a WotC thing, just an LoG thing. I feel much better spending my money on products that don't tick me off before I open the box.

Feb 14, 2011 -- 9:14PM, ChaoticGood wrote:

I mean, we're talking about a  tradition that goes all the way back to the original Frozen  Shade .


I totally have some Frozen Shades kicking around somewhere...

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2011 - 1:06PM #9
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Feb 15, 2011 -- 10:54AM, battles14 wrote:

I do not currently own Legion of Gold. I am seriously considering not buying it, particularly when compared to other products (Fortune Cards


See now, I decided not to buy fortune cards, particularly when there were more Gamma World products I'd rather have (i.e. I wanted to send WotC a message on the type of products I want them to focus on). So you pretty much canceled by my 'vote'

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 15, 2011 - 1:16PM #10
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The weapon powers also forgot ‘+ weapon accuracy' in the attack line. Probably a carryover from the fact that that is not explicitly stated in core 4e weapon powers.

Also, Excalibur, do you realize how much editing goes into TCGs? And how, this being an experimental side project probably means it has fewer resources to work with than core D&D products? Considering that, they did a great job with LoG.
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