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2 years ago ::
Jan 14, 2011 - 7:57AM
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Which wizard do you enjoy playing more? The 4e version or the 3.5 version?
In 4e I have not had much fun playing a wizard or any spell caster. I can't put my finger on why that is. Maybe it is just the powers or the number of spells available. It could also be the magic system is different now. Anyone else experience this?
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2 years ago ::
Jan 14, 2011 - 8:00AM
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Which wizard do you enjoy playing more? The 4e version or the 3.5 version?
In 4e I have not had much fun playing a wizard or any spell caster. I can't put my finger on why that is. Maybe it is just the powers or the number of spells available. It could also be the magic system is different now. Anyone else experience this?
Its because wizards arent gods anymore, but more in line with the rest of the PC's. You lost power relative to everyone else, which makes it less "fun". Or less "special". The good old boys wizard club uses that line a lot to disguise the fact that they want casters to be flat out better than anyone else.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 14, 2011 - 8:03AM
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My wife felt the same way you did, until she got into the strategy of playing a wizard. Now she loves the challenge of setting up the battlefield to help her allies while trying to avoid the attacks that exploit her weaknesses. Once she stopped looking for how her character could end the battle and instead concentrated on how she can contribute to the battle, she said she would never go back to playing a 3e wizard.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 14, 2011 - 8:08AM
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I actually prefer the 4e wizard. It could be that my previous edition DMs always saved against @ 90% of my spell effects.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 14, 2011 - 8:10AM
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I prefer the 4th Wizard over previous editions. I line the four different implement bonuses- staff, book, orb or wand. They also survive better. The Wizard is one of the few classes I have taken to 30th level.
I don't like the Essentials Wizard as much. I don't like being hamstringed into a Evoker or Illusionist role. E Wizard doesn't force this though. I also black magic marker-ed the half damage on a miss on encounters.
One of the nice twists with the E wizard is the Enchanter. He does little to no damage but has actual enchantment effects- a nice twist.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 14, 2011 - 8:13AM
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Ever wonder why Gygax and his cronies all played wizard's for the most part? Bigby, Mordekainen, etc. were the original gods of wizardry. Any time I heard a story from those days it inevitably centred around some wizardly character. The wizard's utility and versatility are legendary from earlier editions. Is it any wonder that people miss them?
People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. --George Orwell There is no flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people. --Howard Zinn He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster. --Friedrich Nietzsche 
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2 years ago ::
Jan 14, 2011 - 8:14AM
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4e Wizard all the way.
Because I don't like slings.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 14, 2011 - 8:14AM
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My wife felt the same way you did, until she got into the strategy of playing a wizard. Now she loves the challenge of setting up the battlefield to help her allies while trying to avoid the attacks that exploit her weaknesses. Once she stopped looking for how her character could end the battle and instead concentrated on how she can contribute to the battle, she said she would never go back to playing a 3e wizard.
I would venture to say that this way of thinking is how many people approach the game. Not that it's bad, but it's a little harder to learn how to work together over, I just blow things up.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 14, 2011 - 8:15AM
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Ever wonder why Gygax and his cronies all played wizard's for the most part? Bigby, Mordekainen, etc. were the original gods of wizardry. Any time I heard a story from those days it inevitably centred around some wizardly character. The wizard's utility and versatility are legendary from earlier editions. Is it any wonder that people miss them?
Compared to what other classes could do, they did seem like gods.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 14, 2011 - 8:26AM
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Which wizard do you enjoy playing more? The 4e version or the 3.5 version?
In 4e I have not had much fun playing a wizard or any spell caster. I can't put my finger on why that is. Maybe it is just the powers or the number of spells available. It could also be the magic system is different now. Anyone else experience this?
Its because wizards arent gods anymore, but more in line with the rest of the PC's. You lost power relative to everyone else, which makes it less "fun". Or less "special". The good old boys wizard club uses that line a lot to disguise the fact that they want casters to be flat out better than anyone else.
I don't think they were gods before. Even the cleric is the same way.
I can understand beefing up the other classes, but the wizard plays very different than before. Maybe it is just the lack of show stopper spells. It also doesn't seem like my character is using magic anymore.
What I mean is that in 4e you have 16 effects, damage dice, movement (pull, slides), and various bonuses. 4e powers seem to be just combinations of those. All the classes do this. So it isn't that the wizard is more powerful, it is that the spell casters are not any different.
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