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2 years ago ::
Jan 12, 2011 - 5:10PM
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Apr 21, 2001
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 Dragon 395Channel Divinity: VecnaBy Robert J. Schwalb Those divine servants who follow Vecna often command power over the dead and consolidate their gods evil goals with their own.  Talk about this article here.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 12, 2011 - 5:14PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 21, 2001
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Overall I really liked the fluff and the tone of the article, plus some of the mechanical crunch looks pretty decent (the attack granting power for example, which can be used on creatures was pretty spiffy). Some of the other stuff looks underpowered, but I'll have to see what Heroes of Shadow does before writing it off. Some solid necrotic support in that book could easily bring it up. I wish the necrotic negating feat in the article scaled by level though, so 5 at heroic, 10 at paragon and 15 at epic. That would make it more generally useful.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 12, 2011 - 5:33PM
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Feb 20, 2009
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Command Undead seems... hilariously weak. You must be a Class that already has a CD power that targets Undead in order to take the Feat to gain Command Undead, which is itself a CD power. Who would ever use Command over (Abjure, Smite, Turn or Rebuke) Undead? Why the hell would you pay a Feat for that?
There's also a disconnect between the article's fluff and it's crunch. The "Class" section of "Creating a Follower of Vecna" states that "Not all player characters who choose Vecna as their god are members of a divine class", yet all of the crunch options require a Divine class.
And you're right; the Necrotic-keyword supporting feats are really weak right now due to the lack of Necrotic powers. I expect that will change some after Heroes of Shadow comes out... in three more months.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 12, 2011 - 5:47PM
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Apr 21, 2001
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You can grant a basic attack to an ally with command undead, in some cases easily out damaging the likes of abdure undead and it doesn't care if there are undead in the encounter. Abdure undead only works on undead creatures, so in a campaign where you're not fighting undead all the time it's practically a pointless power in a lot of encounters. Command Undead works on creature, so you can use it on your allies if they are reduced to zero HP or take advantage of monsters with strong melee attacks when they are reduced to zero HP. For example in the other campaign I am running there has been, in the entire campaign thus far, one encounter with undead.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 12, 2011 - 5:50PM
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Feb 20, 2009
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I'm not talking about Vecna's Final Command, I'm talking about Command Undead.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 12, 2011 - 5:51PM
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Apr 21, 2001
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Oh that one. I just ignored it because it was so terrible.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 12, 2011 - 6:36PM
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The fluff has pretty much sold me on making my first evilish character the next time I play in a campaign; A Keeper of the Forbidden Lore avenger or executioner.
Command undead seems pretty weak though. I honestly don't think a slide+dominate would be that overpowered. Or make it a burst and make them make a basic attack against whoever you want. As of now it is severely lacking compared to the current options. I found some of the feats to be....ok.... I liked the flavor of some of them.....
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2 years ago ::
Jan 12, 2011 - 6:52PM
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I have linked to this thread as the official discussion thread.
@Aegeri: Thank you for creating this thread. Nice job on the formatting.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 12, 2011 - 7:42PM
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Not being "insider" anymore I can't read the article myself, so I have to ask does the new R&D process seem to be doing good job according to this article?
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2 years ago ::
Jan 12, 2011 - 8:07PM
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Date Joined:
May 12, 2009
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Article is okay, nothing more.
Article Fluff = Thumbs up
Article Crunch = Thumbs down.
Overall note: 6.5
Overall feeling: I feel disappointed, due to better expectations i was having in it
Conclusions: I found it was below average expected quality.
We should really rate them and vote by way of Poll
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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