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2 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2011 - 3:18AM #41
DMaple
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Jan 13, 2011 -- 2:41AM, baumi wrote:

I mean who will be happy about NOT having compilations anymore?




The chap that had to compile them, and WotC_Trevor?

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2 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2011 - 3:25AM #42
Kartesh
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Q: Why have you decided to stop compiling the monthly magazine issues?
A: We have found that fans favor our articles individually as opposed to  downloading monthly compilations. This is not a reduction in content,  just a clarification of presentation.



This is a strange marketing decision taken here. Just because one of two options is favored by the users, doesn't mean they want to loose the other one. If 90% prefere to download articles you are still cutting of those 10 % that don't want to do so and you will also give those users a blow that did both. What makes it even worse: You don't specify which projects will benefit from this move, making it hard for people to accept it.
If you procede that way with other services, you might end up with only half the number of customers you could have and all that was done in order to save a small mount of overall time.
Unless there is a really small number of customers that downloads the compilation (lets say maybe <5-10%), you better keep on providing a service your customers are used to, especially if the effort to do so is rather small (putting some PDF's togehter and edit the layout is a one man job taking some hours at most).

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2 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2011 - 4:24AM #43
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Jan 13, 2011 -- 3:18AM, DMaple wrote:

Jan 13, 2011 -- 2:41AM, baumi wrote:

I mean who will be happy about NOT having compilations anymore?




The chap that had to compile them, and WotC_Trevor?




HA HA HA HA!

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2 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2011 - 4:28AM #44
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Here's my main reason for why there should be a compiled issue at the end. If you want to go back and download a past issue, it sure is a lot easier to download the whole thing, rather then all the single articles one after another.

Also, so more people download single articles over the whole thing? Not sure how that means they shouldn't have it as an option. Who does it hurt?
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2 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2011 - 4:34AM #45
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Jan 13, 2011 -- 3:18AM, DMaple wrote:

Jan 13, 2011 -- 2:41AM, baumi wrote:

I mean who will be happy about NOT having compilations anymore?




The chap that had to compile them, and WotC_Trevor?




Actually, I think that guy just got tired of having to make end of month deadlines, while everyone else around him was able to miss theirs.  He figured out a way to spin it to management, and this is what we have.

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2 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2011 - 4:58AM #46
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Jan 13, 2011 -- 4:28AM, Dane_McArdy wrote:

Here's my main reason for why there should be a compiled issue at the end. If you want to go back and download a past issue, it sure is a lot easier to download the whole thing, rather then all the single articles one after another.

Also, so more people download single articles over the whole thing? Not sure how that means they shouldn't have it as an option. Who does it hurt?



I suspect that's precisely the reason they've chosen to stop producing them - if it's more difficult to download back issues, it's more difficult for the people who subscribe occasionally in order to get back issues, and the logic would seem to be that this makes them more likely to subscribe continuously.

Which is so stupid I struggle to believe it, except that it's pretty much exactly what happened with the CB.

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2 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2011 - 5:10AM #47
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Jan 13, 2011 -- 4:58AM, thespaceinvader wrote:

Jan 13, 2011 -- 4:28AM, Dane_McArdy wrote:

Here's my main reason for why there should be a compiled issue at the end. If you want to go back and download a past issue, it sure is a lot easier to download the whole thing, rather then all the single articles one after another.

Also, so more people download single articles over the whole thing? Not sure how that means they shouldn't have it as an option. Who does it hurt?



I suspect that's precisely the reason they've chosen to stop producing them - if it's more difficult to download back issues, it's more difficult for the people who subscribe occasionally in order to get back issues, and the logic would seem to be that this makes them more likely to subscribe continuously.

Which is so stupid I struggle to believe it, except that it's pretty much exactly what happened with the CB.




Yeah, it just doesn't make sense. The only thing I can see is that they save the money cost on a few pieces of art.

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2 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2011 - 5:14AM #48
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Oh, is this another one of your anti-piracy stunts, Wizards?
Well done!
Because now only a fraction of these evil hack0rz will upload the individual articles for illegal download, because it's too much of a hassle, and not worth the effort.

Will you at least stick to the PDF format, or is it to much work to click on "print to pdf", as well? And hey, if you don't publish pdfs at all, the upcoming articles probably won't be read by non-paying readers at all!
In fact, they won't even be read by me!

Back then, when I used to be satisfied with my ddi subsription, I usually read the individual articles when they appeared on the wizards.com/dnd page, scan for stuff that I deemed interesting.
Once every couple of months, I downloaded the back issues so I'd have them for later reference.

Oh boy, once you've started messing up the ddi suite, you just don't stop, do you, guys?

Well, my subscription ends soon, and for the remainder of our 4E campaign, I'll just stick to the offline CB. Luckily, Dungeon didn't provide me with anything exciting, and dragon - I can do without "Fortune Cards" Previews, and whatever else you're going to come up with in the future...

Thanks for a great 1,5 years of ddi. It was fun while it lasted.

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2 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2011 - 5:19AM #49
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I would not be surprised if the next step was to make it so that the articles aren't PDFs anymore, but only accessable via Silverlight, and printing them turns them into images, rather then text, like it does with the Character Sheet. And will more then likely do with the Monster Builder.

You know WoTC, if you want to do that, to help prevent piracy, ok fine.

But you should move making things customizable in CB to the top of the list. With the standalone, I was able to take the Character sheet PDFs and edit them to fit the customization in my game.

You know, how DnD is meant to be played, with the ability to make it your own and add your own touches.
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2 years ago  ::  Jan 13, 2011 - 5:20AM #50
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Eh, I dont think their data is completely accurate.  For instance the assassin article has been in my browser tabs since release.  I must have downloaded it multiple times.

I'll toss in my vote for bad idea.  I like the compilations. 
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