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3 years ago  ::  Dec 16, 2010 - 11:54PM #31
SongNSilence
Date Joined: Jun 16, 2007
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Dec 15, 2010 -- 8:16PM, Herid_Fel wrote:

Quick note on the swordmage  variants - you'll want to use Intelligent Blademaster rather than Melee  Training (Intelligence) so you get the full Int bonus to damage. The  first variant probably has that feat through heroic (before it can  retrain into HBO).



Thanks, Intelligent Blademaster was completely off my radar, i'll change it.

Dec 16, 2010 -- 10:58PM, MC-DrowBane wrote:

This build has been added to the Hall of Heroes.




Embarassed ...i will take this as an incentive to finally sit down and get power selection done. Good work on the Hall of Heroes, DPR optimization is great, but a compilation really showing off selected builds with interesting tactics beyond just DPR was sorely missing before you came along.

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 08, 2011 - 9:00AM #32
borg285
Date Joined: Jan 23, 2008
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What book is "Quarz Lens Solitaire" found in?
By the way, awesome buids man.  Just awesome. 
DPR King Candidates 3.0
How much damage should I shoot for? Show

You're fired          : 1 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .2 KPR
Fair Striker          : 2 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .4 KPR
Highly Optimized : 3 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .6 KPR
Nerfbat please     : 4 Kills Per 5 Rounds = .8 KPR
It's OVER 9000!!!!!: 5 Kills Per 5 Rounds = 1+ KPR

DPR?  KPR?  KP4R?  Bless you Show

DPR = Damage Per round ~= Chance to hit * damage on a hit
KPR = Kills Per Round.  1 Kill = 8*Level+24 damage
       = DPR/(8*level+24)
KPNR = Kills Per N Rounds.  How many standards can you kill in N rounds?
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 08, 2011 - 9:27AM #33
SongNSilence
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Feb 8, 2011 -- 9:00AM, borg285 wrote:

What book is "Quarz Lens Solitaire" found in?



It's from Dark Sun Campaign Setting - but the effect is just for show (1/enc: critical hit deals radiant or fire type damage)... 

By the way, awesome buids man.  Just awesome. 



Thank you very much

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 20, 2011 - 2:28PM #34
Kryx
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Hey Song,

Which version is the strongest in your opinion? I'm looking for the best defender role. I assume the variants are less powerful, but bypass some restrictions. Can you add some insight? If you can clarify how they differ more that'd be great.

Also: I'm probably blind, but what is the reason for revanent? I'd prefer to port it to something else unless there is a compelling reason.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 23, 2011 - 4:13PM #35
Kryx
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Bump. Saw you active so hoping maybe you'll see my post this time.

I'd also like to see this build at a lower level - say 6 or 12. Moreso the tactics - wondering if it's anywhere near as effective in Heroic .
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 23, 2011 - 7:31PM #36
Vivianna_Romanones
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Feb 20, 2011 -- 2:28PM, Kryx wrote:

Also: I'm probably blind, but what is the reason for revanent? I'd prefer to port it to something else unless there is a compelling reason.


It's probably for the CON bonus and the Feat, but neither are critical to the build.

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 24, 2011 - 9:12AM #37
Damiel
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Specifically the Revenant allows you access to the Longtooth Shifter's regeneration (and the increase available to this regeneration via Rapid Regeneration). The regneration adds a formidable amount of durability to the build but the "Inescapable" and the "Fisherman" parts of this build (shift denial and drawing enemies in with Sword Burst) are accomplishable with any number of races.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 24, 2011 - 10:06AM #38
Kryx
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I figured as much. Reitterating my more important questions:

Version
Which version is the strongest in your opinion? I'm looking for the best defender role. I assume the variants are less powerful, but bypass some restrictions. Can you add some insight? If you can clarify how they differ more that'd be great.


Heroic Scalability
I'd also like to see this build at a lower level - say 6 or 12. Moreso the tactics - wondering if it's anywhere near as effective in Heroic .
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 24, 2011 - 12:11PM #39
Vivianna_Romanones
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Feb 24, 2011 -- 10:06AM, Kryx wrote:

Heroic Scalability
I'd also like to see this build at a lower level - say 6 or 12. Moreso the tactics - wondering if it's anywhere near as effective in Heroic .


You can infer it by what he wrote in the "Prior to L.16" block and the L.16 version, seeing what Feats the character would have access too.

At Heroic, the character is a decent defender but the "Inescapable Fisherman" aspect really only comes on line with the Paragon powers.

Obviously the At-Wills are still the At-Wills, and Mark of Storms is still Mark of Storms, and the character is capable/competent at Heroic but not *special* yet.

But, then, that is true of every character: naturally they don't have as many abilities, aren't what they will become - and the threats they face aren't all that.

So, yeah - L.6-8; competent Mark-of-Storms-Swordburst Defender but not inescapable.

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2 years ago  ::  May 24, 2011 - 12:26AM #40
SongNSilence
Date Joined: Jun 16, 2007
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Changed MC Warden + Sudden roots to MC Fighter + Hindering Shield -> no theme requirements anymore, now sword burst slows instead of the OAs. Suggested by someone (his post unfortunately vanished somehow). Also changed race in reference build to Mul -> hand out 3x61 temp hp to allies as free actions each encounter (inspired by Jay libero 911).

Feb 24, 2011 -- 10:06AM, Kryx wrote:


Version
Which version is the strongest in your opinion? I'm looking for the best defender role. I assume the variants are less powerful, but bypass some restrictions. Can you add some insight? If you can clarify how they differ more that'd be great.



I think the main build is the best defender, due to his ability to give out up to 2x31 hit points to his allies, and theme limitation was just removed from this build.


Heroic Scalability
I'd also like to see this build at a lower level - say 6 or 12. Moreso the tactics - wondering if it's anywhere near as effective in Heroic .




What Viviana Romanones said. In addition, keep in mind you can use blurred step to keep up with enemies from lvl 1, which allows for double punishment on the marked foe. Example sequence: Marked enemy shifts -> you shift with him -> marked enemy charges -> opportunity attack -> marked enemy hits ally -> DR via Aegis of Shielding (DR: 8 @lvl1). So, while you don't have the capability to lock down multiple enemies yet, the marked one has more to fear from your mark than from most others at lvl 1.

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