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2 years ago  ::  Dec 12, 2010 - 2:08PM #11
ExcalibursZone
Date Joined: Jun 16, 2008
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Agreed, Yeti is At-Will Standard.

I wonder what's going on with the inconsistencies. I mean, yeah, it's WotC, but this is getting a bit much...
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 12, 2010 - 2:16PM #12
gribble
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Could one of you lucky americans who already has the set confirm what approach they've taken to combining the new origins with the old ones during character creation, and if they've changed the rules for generating Engineered Humans?
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 12, 2010 - 2:46PM #13
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Dec 12, 2010 -- 2:16PM, gribble wrote:

Could one of you lucky americans who already has the set confirm what approach they've taken to combining the new origins with the old ones during character creation, and if they've changed the rules for generating Engineered Humans?




The suggestion is to dice for which book you'll take origins from.  Basically, a 50/50 chance of base game origins or FiF.

I'm going to do that but for roll for which book for each origin separately.  That is, your first origin could come from base game and your second one could come from the FiF book.

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 12, 2010 - 3:25PM #14
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Dec 12, 2010 -- 2:46PM, privateer2hire wrote:

The suggestion is to dice for which book you'll take origins from.  Basically, a 50/50 chance of base game origins or FiF.



As in, choose a book first, then roll both origins from that book? I guess it addresses the EH question nicely, but it does reduce the randomness a bit.

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 12, 2010 - 3:28PM #15
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Dec 12, 2010 -- 2:16PM, gribble wrote:

Could one of you lucky americans who already has the set confirm what approach they've taken to combining the new origins with the old ones during character creation, and if they've changed the rules for generating Engineered Humans?




it says if you roll the same origin twice, then you are engineered human. with more origins, chances of engineered human would be even less...so...

what im going to have our group do is make an expansion roll (1d6, 1-3 base set, 4-6 fargo) for both their primary and secondary origins.

then they 2d20 for the origins and if the d20 rolls match, then engineered human is the secondary origin, regardless of whether the origins came from the same book or not.

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 12, 2010 - 3:59PM #16
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My plan is to have them roll a d6 and a d20 for each origin. 1-3 = core rules, 4-6 = FiF. When Legion of Gold comes, it'll be 1-2 = Core, 3-4 = FiF, and 5-6 = LoG.

If the same origin comes up, then they're Engineered Human. That means that they have to roll the same results on the d6 and d20 (well, the d6 as a range). If someone rolls Yeti and Wheeled, they may be the same origin number (I'm guessing here, books are not in front of me) but they are not the same origin. Therefore a wheeled yeti...hmm Big Foot as a Roller Derby player? *ponder*
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 12, 2010 - 4:05PM #17
gribble
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Hmmm... so it sounds like, as somewhat expected, the rules are fairly vague and everyone will have their own interpretations/house rules...

Dec 12, 2010 -- 3:59PM, ExcalibursZone wrote:

My plan is to have them roll a d6 and a d20 for each origin. 1-3 = core rules, 4-6 = FiF. When Legion of Gold comes, it'll be 1-2 = Core, 3-4 = FiF, and 5-6 = LoG.



You'll probably want to make that a d12: 1-5 = Core, 6-10 = FiF, 11-12 = LoG, as LoG only has 8 new origins...

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 12, 2010 - 4:07PM #18
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Dec 12, 2010 -- 4:05PM, gribble wrote:

Hmmm... so it sounds like, as somewhat expected, the rules are fairly vague and everyone will have their own interpretations/house rules...

Dec 12, 2010 -- 3:59PM, ExcalibursZone wrote:

My plan is to have them roll a d6 and a d20 for each origin. 1-3 = core rules, 4-6 = FiF. When Legion of Gold comes, it'll be 1-2 = Core, 3-4 = FiF, and 5-6 = LoG.



You'll probably want to make that a d12: 1-5 = Core, 6-10 = FiF, 11-12 = LoG, as LoG only has 8 new origins...


Ah, well, it really doesn't matter I could easily rewrite the tables to do d% instead, with 48 total official origins then, it's almost a good thing. Throw in Engineered Human as a possible roll and you have 49. Set everything at 2% and EH at 3% and you've got a good table.

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 12, 2010 - 5:26PM #19
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I like the mistake they made on the death saucer.
Neutron bomb rechares when bloodied but when bloodied "sudden landing" and "grounded" trigger so that it can't use neutron bomb.

The wheeled yeti was obvious to me. Big Foot was THE monster truck when I was a kid.
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 12, 2010 - 6:09PM #20
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Dec 12, 2010 -- 5:26PM, Sea-Envy wrote:

I like the mistake they made on the death saucer.
Neutron bomb rechares when bloodied but when bloodied "sudden landing" and "grounded" trigger so that it can't use neutron bomb.



I assumed, when the preview was published, that the recharges on "neutron bomb" and "deliver troops" were mixed up somewhere along the line - i.e.: neutron bomb should be a 5 or 6 recharge, and deliver troops should recharge when bloodied.

At least, that's probably the way I'll run it. Very cool monster BTW.

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