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2 years ago ::
Dec 10, 2010 - 2:06PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 16, 2008
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Hey guys,
I've read a few threads here that suggest Sorcs are an underpowered class after heroic tier. Personally i don't see it. In our epic campagin i play a level 22 storm Sorc with Lightning Fury and Demigod. I fly around the battlefield doing huge damage with aoes and single target attacks.
My crit dice are maximized and i consistently do over a hundred total damage/per round even without a crit...
My other party-mates are a defender swordmage, rogue, and cleric...
Am i missing something?
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2 years ago ::
Dec 10, 2010 - 3:07PM
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Date Joined:
Mar 29, 2010
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Am i missing something?
You're missing a mindset in which "underpowered" doesn't mean "lacking enough power to do what you need to do" but instead means "does at least 1 point of damage less than another build".
Forget about it and enjoy your character!
...and that's the news from Lake 4th Edition, where the Gnomes are strong, the Half-Orcs are good-looking, and all the PCs are above average.
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2 years ago ::
Dec 10, 2010 - 3:14PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 31, 2010
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Am i missing something?
You're missing a mindset in which "underpowered" doesn't mean "lacking enough power to do what you need to do" but instead means "does at least 1 point of damage less than another build".
Forget about it and enjoy your character!
qft
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2 years ago ::
Dec 10, 2010 - 3:26PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 29, 2005
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I love the sorcerer as a class, but their PP's are pretty bleh. That's my only issue with the, since Daggermaster is no longer a valid option.
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2 years ago ::
Dec 10, 2010 - 3:45PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 16, 2008
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Am i missing something?
You're missing a mindset in which "underpowered" doesn't mean "lacking enough power to do what you need to do" but instead means "does at least 1 point of damage less than another build".
Forget about it and enjoy your character!
qft
Ah. got it! Personally i care about RP but of course i enjoy being effective as well...
As for the PPs...whats wrong with Lightning Fury? Seems perfect for storm magic. How do people live without unstoppable lightning?? 
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2 years ago ::
Dec 10, 2010 - 4:22PM
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Date Joined:
May 17, 2009
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I dunno, I always though sorcs got kinda hosed in the AC department. Its no good having high damage potential if you're dead.
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2 years ago ::
Dec 10, 2010 - 4:25PM
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The big problem-in my mind-is that strength sorcerers are really powerful while dex sorcerers, while nifty, are relatively crap. I mean, Adamantine Echo 1/day + Platinum Scales 1/day, at epic you're basically going from "Easy to hit" to "Next to impossible to hit" in two out of X encounters per day, and don't get me started on just how ridiculous Ancient Soul is if you know what the (expletive deleted) you're doing.
Sorcs and Monks aren't underpowered-it's just that Rangers and Rogues are overpowered.
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2 years ago ::
Dec 10, 2010 - 4:27PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 31, 2008
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Alexandra hit this one on the nose, as demonstrated by Samrin. If you read these forums too much (especially the Char Op), you might start thinking that all D&D players think that way. Don't be fooled. According to the Optimizers, the only PP worth taking for the Sorcerer was (and still is) Daggermaster (a Rogue PP). Now that you can't benefit from the extra crit range (the only reason they took it), suddenly Sorcerers are "underpowered".
I have found the same thing as you. My friends and I played a short adventure at level 15, and the Sorcerer was fantastic in terms of damage. Sure the AC is low, but I found it didn't really matter. Unless your DM is a jerk and specifically has all the monsters target you just because he knows you have a low AC, you won't die more than other characters.
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2 years ago ::
Dec 10, 2010 - 4:32PM
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As for the PPs...whats wrong with Lightning Fury? Seems perfect for storm magic. How do people live without unstoppable lightning??
That's great ... for Storm Sorcs. What do the rest of us take?
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2 years ago ::
Dec 10, 2010 - 5:00PM
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I think they're underpowered in the same way other static-damage classes are underpowered. They just can't compete with the weapon classes that can take a single feat and gain a +1 or +2 per [W] to damage.
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