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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 9:50PM #1
Lord_Ventnor
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Class Acts: The Cavalier's Steed


Mounted warfare is the cavalier’s forte, and all cavaliers possess a mystic bond to the spirit of a virtuous steed or charger ready to serve them in battle. For cavaliers who select the Pace of the Virtuous Charger class feature, this spirit settles over any mortal mount they ride, blessing the most ordinary horse with outstanding speed and stamina. However, other cavaliers choose to manifest their noble companion spirit by summoning it in the form of a celestial steed. The Summoned Steed ability provides these cavaliers with an alternate class feature to replace Pace of the Virtuous Charger.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 9:52PM #2
Janx_14
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Surprising how fast they caved and returned to tiered feats.

The amount of flavor text on these feats is getting alittle extreme though.

Overall a cool article.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 10:11PM #3
Oulak
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I also thought it was interesting to see the tier feats back. It's also nice to see the summoned mount feature that so many people were asking about that didn't show up in the book.

I like the celestial tiger. Reflavored as a panther, it makes me think of the Huntress for the Night Elves in Warcraft III.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 11:31PM #4
Lord_Ventnor
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Dragon Riding.

It's enough to make me want to play a Dragonborn Cavalier.

You dawg! I saw you liked dragons, so I put a dragon on your dragon so you can smite while you smite! 
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2010 - 3:03AM #5
Style75
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Great article, as I read it campaign ideas kept popping into my head

I really like the flavor from this article. Defintely NOT too much fluff, because it was necessary to distinguish this class from the basic paladin. Mechanics wise, I can't wait to see the full cavalier entry from the book and then see it in action. However, it will require that party and DM makes mounts a big part of their game. If your campaign is mostly dungeon crawls, the cavalier would be severly underpowered (assuming the mounted features are taking the place of other features).

My campaigns uses mounts a LOT so I expect sooner or later to see one these show up. When it does I'll write up a report on how it plays.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2010 - 5:41AM #6
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I've linked to this thread as the official discussion thread.  Thanks for starting it Lord_Ventnor.  And good job on the formatting.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2010 - 6:12AM #7
AlexandraErin
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Style75, the class feature this takes the place of also relates to mounts, it just gives divinely-flavored benefits to any mundane mount. So while a Cavalier's full usefulness will be situational depending on the campaign (true of every class, to differing degrees... radiant damage is more valuable in some campaigns than others, and it's the divine classes' bread and butter), it'll be about the same no matter which feature you choose.

I don't see the tiered feats as "caving"... the current design style deprecates them, but Essentials' changes were about opening up the design space, not replacing old limitations with new ones. "Dragon vs. pony" seems like a situation where epic vs. heroic designations are appropriate. Though... I kind of would liked to have seen them give a choice of mounts at heroic tier that grow into their powers. 
...and that's the news from Lake 4th Edition, where the Gnomes are strong, the Half-Orcs are good-looking, and all the PCs are above average.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2010 - 6:22AM #8
Yaldabaoth
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Nov 11, 2010 -- 11:31PM, Lord_Ventnor wrote:

You dawg! I saw you liked dragons, so I put a dragon on your dragon so you can smite while you smite!


"Pimp My Steed" would give all the wrong connotations, though. "Odo Cleantoes was the richest and most visited riding-sheep rancher in the Halflingshyre... but also the least respected."

I liked that this article had the Jade Horse and Mounted Combat feats. Everyone gets in on the bow-legged fun.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2010 - 6:54AM #9
Cailte
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From an Essentials point of view the problem with this article is that Mounted Combat feat itself is missing from Essentials. There is no way to benefit from the "Mount" feature of the summoned mounts!
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2010 - 7:26AM #10
AlexandraErin
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That might present a problem if somebody wanted to use it at Encounters (I'm not sure where the fine divisions come down there, exactly), but that might be why this is on Dragon and not in the Heroes book... anybody who has access to this feature has access to that feat.
...and that's the news from Lake 4th Edition, where the Gnomes are strong, the Half-Orcs are good-looking, and all the PCs are above average.
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