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1 year ago  ::  Apr 25, 2012 - 3:01AM #871
Heartlessone
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Apr 25, 2012 -- 12:18AM, Alcestis wrote:

Apr 24, 2012 -- 8:22PM, Heartlessone wrote:

For your Predator Polearm Build, at lvl 19 you have : Druid daily 19: Summon Crocodile (replaces Summon Crocodile), but you take the power at lvl 9 already,   
so I was wondering what ability you meant to take and replace at that lvl because you also replace Summon Crocodile at lvl 25 as well with Primal Storm.  


He replaced Summon Crocodile with Summon Crocodile. It isn't an accident.


So he replaced it so he didn't have to take a lvl 19 daily power, if I'm to understand this correctly?

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 25, 2012 - 11:30AM #872
Alcestis
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Apr 25, 2012 -- 3:01AM, Heartlessone wrote:

Apr 25, 2012 -- 12:18AM, Alcestis wrote:

Apr 24, 2012 -- 8:22PM, Heartlessone wrote:

For your Predator Polearm Build, at lvl 19 you have : Druid daily 19: Summon Crocodile (replaces Summon Crocodile), but you take the power at lvl 9 already,   
so I was wondering what ability you meant to take and replace at that lvl because you also replace Summon Crocodile at lvl 25 as well with Primal Storm.  


He replaced Summon Crocodile with Summon Crocodile. It isn't an accident.


So he replaced it so he didn't have to take a lvl 19 daily power, if I'm to understand this correctly?


Well you never have to take a new power at all. He replaced it because otherwise the CB keeps defaulting to the level 19 slot and saying "replace me!" It isn't a rules thing, it is a technical thing with the CB.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 25, 2012 - 11:53AM #873
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It never occurred to me to replace a power with itself to make it shut up. Learn something new (and in this case, useful even) every day.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 25, 2012 - 1:09PM #874
Todd
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Apr 15, 2012 -- 11:58AM, Feralspirit wrote:

Add Elven Chain Shirt to Wondrous (suggested Sky Blue), with caveat that it confers an item bonus to AC, thus does not stack with Boots of the Fencing Master, Amulet of Elusive Prey, etc...




You also can't use Wonderous Items while Wild Shaped.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 25, 2012 - 2:41PM #875
Heartlessone
Date Joined: Apr 24, 2012
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Apr 25, 2012 -- 11:30AM, Alcestis wrote:

Apr 25, 2012 -- 3:01AM, Heartlessone wrote:

Apr 25, 2012 -- 12:18AM, Alcestis wrote:

Apr 24, 2012 -- 8:22PM, Heartlessone wrote:

For your Predator Polearm Build, at lvl 19 you have : Druid daily 19: Summon Crocodile (replaces Summon Crocodile), but you take the power at lvl 9 already,   
so I was wondering what ability you meant to take and replace at that lvl because you also replace Summon Crocodile at lvl 25 as well with Primal Storm.  


He replaced Summon Crocodile with Summon Crocodile. It isn't an accident.


So he replaced it so he didn't have to take a lvl 19 daily power, if I'm to understand this correctly?


Well you never have to take a new power at all. He replaced it because otherwise the CB keeps defaulting to the level 19 slot and saying "replace me!" It isn't a rules thing, it is a technical thing with the CB.


Ah, I don't use CB, but thx for the clearification.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 25, 2012 - 8:12PM #876
Feralspirit
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Apr 25, 2012 -- 1:09PM, Todd wrote:

Apr 15, 2012 -- 11:58AM, Feralspirit wrote:

Add Elven Chain Shirt to Wondrous (suggested Sky Blue), with caveat that it confers an item bonus to AC, thus does not stack with Boots of the Fencing Master, Amulet of Elusive Prey, etc...




You also can't use Wonderous Items while Wild Shaped.




Wild Shape, Last Paragragh:

 You can use the properties and the powers of implements as well as magic items that you wear, but not the properties or the powers of weapons or the powers of wondrous items. While equipment is part of your beast form, it cannot be removed, and anything in a container that is part of your beast form is inaccessible.

Elven Chain Shirt confers Item Bonus to AC as a property, not a power. (If you wear light armor, don't leave home without one.)

(but you did make me nervous...)

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 27, 2012 - 3:18AM #877
crayne
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Apr 25, 2012 -- 8:12PM, Feralspirit wrote:

Apr 25, 2012 -- 1:09PM, Todd wrote:

Apr 15, 2012 -- 11:58AM, Feralspirit wrote:

Add Elven Chain Shirt to Wondrous (suggested Sky Blue), with caveat that it confers an item bonus to AC, thus does not stack with Boots of the Fencing Master, Amulet of Elusive Prey, etc...




You also can't use Wonderous Items while Wild Shaped.




Wild Shape, Last Paragragh:

 You can use the properties and the powers of implements as well as magic items that you wear, but not the properties or the powers of weapons or the powers of wondrous items. While equipment is part of your beast form, it cannot be removed, and anything in a container that is part of your beast form is inaccessible.

Elven Chain Shirt confers Item Bonus to AC as a property, not a power. (If you wear light armor, don't leave home without one.)

(but you did make me nervous...)



It says [...]or the powers of wondrous item[...]. So i can benefit from properties of wondrous items while in beast form?

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 27, 2012 - 8:56AM #878
Feralspirit
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Apr 27, 2012 -- 3:18AM, crayne wrote:


It says [...]or the powers of wondrous item[...]. So i can benefit from properties of wondrous items while in beast form?



That's my understanding, yes, but Alcestis is my authoritative rules source. If the issue is in doubt, visit Rules Questions forum, Ask a simple question thread... I'm fairly certain the rules experts which take the time to answer those questions will agree with me.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 27, 2012 - 9:01AM #879
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Yes, you can still use the properties of your Wondrous Items in Beast Form.  It only limits the use of powers.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 27, 2012 - 4:38PM #880
yargon
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With the new were-themes, it appears that with all of them you can use beast powers and no beast powers in hybrid form at 10th level

While in hybrid form, your equipment does not become part of your new form, and you are not forced to drop any items you are holding. You are also not limited to using implement and weapon attack powers that have the beast form keyword.


 

however you are officially in Beast Form, so Claw gloves etc. but you don't have wildshape unless you have it else where.

food for thought?
 

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