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3 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2010 - 9:32AM
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I can't help but shake my head at the idea that Piracy caused this shift.
I was behind the change because it meant that more users could use the builder, with macs now being supported, and (hopefully) linux not being far behind. Now that I hear that its more because of Piracy, I feel rather ripped off. Sure, we're still getting cross-browser support, but its a hollow victory when the reasons for the change are so bad.
This post (coming from you) popped this song into my head: One of us, one of us. Gooble gobble, gooble gobble.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2010 - 9:34AM
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Sep 22, 2006
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I can't help but shake my head at the idea that Piracy caused this shift.
I was behind the change because it meant that more users could use the builder, with macs now being supported, and (hopefully) linux not being far behind. Now that I hear that its more because of Piracy, I feel rather ripped off. Sure, we're still getting cross-browser support, but its a hollow victory when the reasons for the change are so bad.
I'm not offended that they want to combat piracy, but I am *very* offended that they failed to meet deadlines because they took people off of support to work on an anti-piracy tool. :/
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3 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2010 - 9:34AM
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I can't help but shake my head at the idea that Piracy caused this shift.
I'ts not WotC trying to stem piracy that is upsetting, it's the fact that doing so is cripping functionality for paying users.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2010 - 9:42AM
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I can't help but shake my head at the idea that Piracy caused this shift.
Wasn't that obvious? I applaud them because they admit it.
As I said, the "smart" people that take what they don't pay are responsible for this mess.
Let us not mix up cause and effect. If there wheren't no torrents and no people who subscribe for one month every six to get everything, all this wouldn't have happened.
Ceterum censeo scrinium puniceum esse delendam
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3 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2010 - 9:46AM
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Date Joined:
Nov 23, 2003
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Some posters (I'm not lumping you into this category) on the other hand, seem to just assume that WotC always nearly-deliberately makes decisions without any thought or analysis, just because WotC does things the way they (the poster) would have done it.
I think that WotC is a company that actually moves VERY carefully and veyr nearly OVER-analizes many decisions it makes - and that we simply don't have all the facts on the outside. It's easy to second-guess and assume the worst when you only have the results, and not the factors that went into the decision. 
My problem is that I frequently can not find any reason for their actions that makes sense. Especially when I limit my second guessing of their decisions to subjects that I actually have expertise in...
And if I can't figure out what they were thinking when it's something I know about ... that doesn't lead me to a warm fuzzy about their thinking about things I don't know about. So either I go with the reasons they suggest or are obvious (and thus have to conclude idiocy), or I have to assume they are lying to me.
So ... that leads me to a conclusion I shouldn't write down in this forum.
For example, the 20 character limit.
The official reason is to prevent DDOS attacks, and there has to be a limit. I've done the math: a limit of 3000 characters would cost WotC fifteen centers per subscriber per month. If they are just trying to do it as a single huge database, it's still less than fifty cents per subscriber per month. 100 would be plausible, 20 is just silly.
The official reason for moving to the online builder is to stop piracy. The official reason for stopping selling PDFs was to stop piracy. I don't think I need to reopen that one to make my point.
"Nice assumptions. Completely wrong assumptions, but by jove if being incorrect stopped people from making idiotic statements, we wouldn't have modern internet subculture." Kerrus
Practical gameplay runs by neither RAW or RAI, but rather "A Compromise Between The Gist Of The Rule As I Recall Getting The Impression Of It That One Time I Read It And What Jerry Says He Remembers, Whatever, We'll Look It Up Later If Any Of Us Still Give A Damn." Erachima
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3 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2010 - 9:47AM
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I can't help but shake my head at the idea that Piracy caused this shift.
I'ts not WotC trying to stem piracy that is upsetting, it's the fact that doing so is cripping functionality for paying users.
Yes, that's why I shared the thread about "what is the unambiguous benefit, for us, for us the existing users."
If the online character builder expanded the feature set and increased the speed at which new content got in, but with the cost of online only access. My reaction would be "that's great!"
If the online character builder met feature parity at the cost of online access my reaction would be "well, that's kind of a waste taking so long, but at least things should be good from now on."
If the online character builder was two months late and was missing several features (which is the reality in our universe) then my reaction would be what it is: "What's going on with DDI? Why is the project being mismanaged? Who is making these decisions? I can't really expect any timely updates anymore, can I?"
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3 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2010 - 9:53AM
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Mar 17, 2001
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The official reason for moving to the online builder is to stop piracy. The official reason for stopping selling PDFs was to stop piracy. I don't think I need to reopen that one to make my point.
And again, if there where no torrents, we could still buy PDFs.
I can't understand why people always think that stealing has no consequences, just because its "just a couple of bytes" 
Ceterum censeo scrinium puniceum esse delendam
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3 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2010 - 9:55AM
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*sigh*. Don't go there. Enough threads have been closed over that discussion already
"Nice assumptions. Completely wrong assumptions, but by jove if being incorrect stopped people from making idiotic statements, we wouldn't have modern internet subculture." Kerrus
Practical gameplay runs by neither RAW or RAI, but rather "A Compromise Between The Gist Of The Rule As I Recall Getting The Impression Of It That One Time I Read It And What Jerry Says He Remembers, Whatever, We'll Look It Up Later If Any Of Us Still Give A Damn." Erachima
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3 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2010 - 9:55AM
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I can't help but shake my head at the idea that Piracy caused this shift.
I was behind the change because it meant that more users could use the builder, with macs now being supported, and (hopefully) linux not being far behind. Now that I hear that its more because of Piracy, I feel rather ripped off. Sure, we're still getting cross-browser support, but its a hollow victory when the reasons for the change are so bad.
Actually, it is unlikely that Linux will be anytime soon. Silverlight 4 (which is reportedly what the character builder is written in) is only in planning stages for the Linux project - we are likely looking at at least a year before the project will be ready to use (assuming that the project keeps going with even Microsoft backing off support for Silverlight)
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3 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2010 - 10:05AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 24, 2005
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I can't help but shake my head at the idea that Piracy caused this shift.
I was behind the change because it meant that more users could use the builder, with macs now being supported, and (hopefully) linux not being far behind. Now that I hear that its more because of Piracy, I feel rather ripped off. Sure, we're still getting cross-browser support, but its a hollow victory when the reasons for the change are so bad.
Reality is sometimes hard to accept, but they were finally honest with us.
When will they be honest with themselves?
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