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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2010 - 4:33PM #51
Poseidon88
Date Joined: Mar 20, 2009
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I like the essentials sheet.  Much less wasted space.  Would I be correct in assuming that the other sheets are shared between the two formats?
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2010 - 4:41PM #52
Elemental_Elf
Date Joined: Dec 17, 2005
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Question: Can we pick and choose which character sheet design we want when we go to print it out (i.e if I make an essentials character, can I choose the new 4E design instead of the essentials design or vice versa?). If yes, then will you also include the old 4E character sheet?
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2010 - 5:06PM #53
WotC_Trevor
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The 2nd and 3rd sheet are shared between the two different character sheet formats, as is the power card format. Okay, now on to bigger post with a couple more answers.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2010 - 5:17PM #54
WotC_Trevor
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How much text can we expect in the feat descriptions? Can we have a less text/more text option for feats?


Pretty much what you can see in the examples on the 2nd page of the character sheet in my first post. From all my run throughs, there's enough rules text to be able to use the feat. Currently there is no option to have more or less text in that section.


Does it do calculations for more than one weapon/implement at a time?


Calculations are done for the weapon in your main hand. For attacks that need you to have two weapons, the power cards verify that you have two weapons in those hands and will do the calculations for the attack bonus.


Familiars and rituals?

The familiar feat shows up in the feat section, but the familiar itself does not currently show up on the character sheet. This is something we're looking into adding in a future update. There's also some cool talks about what we can do to display more ritual rules texts, so please don't be shy about sharing your ideas with us.


Alignment, Paragon Path and Epic Destiny don't appear to be fields on the sheets, or am I missing something?


You're right, I couldn't find any either. The only mention of paragon and epic destiny information pops up in the class abilities on the second page, but no mention of paragon and epic destiny name shows up. I've passed this along and I'm sure we'll have those added in a future update.


Basic attacks, just linked to the weapons currently equipped?


Yes, basic attacks are linked to the weapon you have currently equipped in the character builder/character sheet so there is no possibility of 17 different basic attacks.


Is the “Character Builder” Sheet available as a blank PDF?


Not at the moment, but if there's interest it might be something we can do. I'll do some asking and see what I can find out.


Can we get a sheet that shows the calculations?


It may be possible. Currently we have the two sheets at launch of the web-based CB, but we may be able to add more. Again, I'll do some asking and see what I can find out.


AP Power Card?


There isn't an Action Point card at this time. If that's something people would really like to have, let me know and I'll see if we can get it added.


Background benefit isn’t showing?


The background I chose was a pretty simple one, and it gave me a +2 to my arcana skill, which was just added into the skills section.


Have you done testing, do any of the testers play D&D? Will all problems that we find in these posts be fixed by the 16th?

We definitely do testing, and many of the members of the testing team, like many people at Wizards, play D&D. Even with that, we're still going to have some errors like those that people have found, and with all things digital we're likely to have small errors in future updates as well. Once reported, the bugs will be prioritized and fixed as soon as we're able. As to having some of these fixed by the 16th, it's possible but some may have to wait until a later date.

Well that's it for today. Tomorrow we should have a special addition to the daily updates. I'll try to get in and get that one up as early as possible.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2010 - 5:32PM #55
tvar1
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Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:

Can we get a sheet that shows the calculations?

It may be possible. Currently we have the two sheets at launch of the web-based CB, but we may be able to add more. Again, I'll do some asking and see what I can find out.



I don't think it is necessary for the character sheet to show calculations.  The character sheet is for playing, and you don't need the calculations to play.

However, it is absolutely required to have the calculations in the builder somewhere so that we can see it when we are building characters.  Like the way the current CB shows how it calculates your attack and damage for every power.  There will be (and we have already seen evidence of) bugs in the online CB, and it is always wise to check the final numbers before actually playing your character.

Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:

AP Power Card?


There isn't an Action Point card at this time. If that's something people would really like to have, let me know and I'll see if we can get it added.




Yeah, I think the Action Point "power" card is good, as well as the character summary cards (with defenses/stats/skills) as well.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2010 - 5:39PM #56
lancemoody
Date Joined: Jul 7, 2008
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A quick Thank You to Trevor for answering some of the questions that have been asked here.

I may not like some of the answers but I do appreciate getting some info from WOTC.

This testing thing is as I feared: just an internal (probably small) group looking at the product. The errors that have already shown up are almost certainly the tip of the iceberg. On the 16th, I think all of these feature requests will sort of be a wistful memory as we see how the actual product works.

I am surprised that no one has mentioned one of the great purposes of the lost feature of being able to hide Power Cards: you can choose several to hide (the summary, second wind, action point, etc.) in order to get your power card sheet down to a single (or two-sided) sheet.

What a shame that the backward stepping online CB is such a lame shadow of even its quirky and clunky predecessor.

I know that WOTC (unashamedly!)  bandies about the "future" fix idea. Many of us already know to just ignore such talk so as not to be disappointed.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2010 - 5:46PM #57
nshoe
Date Joined: May 8, 2008
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Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:


Does it do calculations for more than one weapon/implement at a time?


Calculations are done for the weapon in your main hand. For attacks that need you to have two weapons, the power cards verify that you have two weapons in those hands and will do the calculations for the attack bonus.





Sadly yet another spot where the "new and improved" character builder doesn't even keep up with the old one... I guess we have to waste the paper and print out the power cards multiple times if we use multiple weapons/implements...

Serious question - Why didn't the dev team look at the current character builder when doing the specifications the new one? There seem to be a fair number of places where basic functionality was completely missed in the new design.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2010 - 5:53PM #58
Plaguescarred
Date Joined: May 12, 2009
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Thanks Trevor for your communication.


Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:

Does it do calculations for more than one weapon/implement at a time?


Calculations are done for the weapon in your main hand. For attacks that need you to have two weapons, the power cards verify that you have two weapons in those hands and will do the calculations for the attack bonus.



It's important to be able to choose to have any weapons on your person displayed on your Power Cards and Basic Attacks. Some Characters often have different weapons for different situations and those need to be visible on the sheets and Cards.

Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:

Familiars and rituals?


The familiar feat shows up in the feat section, but the familiar itself does not currently show up on the character sheet. This is something we're looking into adding in a future update. There's also some cool talks about what we can do to display more ritual rules texts, so please don't be shy about sharing your ideas with us.



I always thought Rituals showing up as Cards was a good idea in the Classic CB. I would definitly try to keep that up.

Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:

Can we get a sheet that shows the calculations?


It may be possible. Currently we have the two sheets at launch of the web-based CB, but we may be able to add more. Again, I'll do some asking and see what I can find out. 




It would be very appreciated to be able to see all proper calculations. It's truly an Aid for DMs and Players alike that the Sheet can display.

Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:

AP Power Card?


There isn't an Action Point card at this time. If that's something people would really like to have, let me know and I'll see if we can get it added.



Oh definitly wanted. AP Card is a nice reminder of your options "at hands" and definitly good to have.

Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:

Well that's it for today. Tomorrow we should have a special addition to the daily updates. I'll try to get in and get that one up as early as possible.



Thanks again for your time. Yes i expect the CB to have errors at launch and hope many good souls will join in to report all the bugs ans snags to help make it a better Tool.

Looking forward for more of your daily updates Trevor with lots of enthusiams and excitations. Keep up the good work guys. We are behind you.

Yan
Montréal, Canada
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2010 - 5:59PM #59
rdaugherty
Date Joined: Aug 17, 2007
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Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:


Does it do calculations for more than one weapon/implement at a time?


Calculations are done for the weapon in your main hand. For attacks that need you to have two weapons, the power cards verify that you have two weapons in those hands and will do the calculations for the attack bonus.



Trevor,  this is just bad. Frown  A lot of my character have more than one weapon for usage in different cases.  For example a two-handed axe for melee and a  throwing hammer for ranged.  And since the axe will be normally equipped, then the basic ranged attack will have to be computed by me each time I need it.  

So please consider this a request for showing attacks/powers for multiple (selected) weapons.

 

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2010 - 6:54PM #60
Artoomis
Date Joined: Jul 28, 2003
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Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:


Does it do calculations for more than one weapon/implement at a time?


Calculations are done for the weapon in your main hand. For attacks that need you to have two weapons, the power cards verify that you have two weapons in those hands and will do the calculations for the attack bonus.



That's a step backwards in furntionality.  Please fix this so one can choose which weapon(s) to display on the power cards.


Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:

Familiars and rituals?

The familiar feat shows up in the feat section, but the familiar itself does not currently show up on the character sheet. This is something we're looking into adding in a future update. There's also some cool talks about what we can do to display more ritual rules texts, so please don't be shy about sharing your ideas with us.



Please fix this.  Rituals may need to porint more text that can fit on a power card, so perhaps just listing them out ontheir own page(s) would work well.


Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:

Basic attacks, just linked to the weapons currently equipped?

Yes, basic attacks are linked to the weapon you have currently equipped in the character builder/character sheet so there is no possibility of 17 different basic attacks.



Again, a step backwards in functionality,  Please ifx.


Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:

Can we get a sheet that shows the calculations?

It may be possible. Currently we have the two sheets at launch of the web-based CB, but we may be able to add more. Again, I'll do some asking and see what I can find out.



This woudl be nice, especially when customization gets allowed.  It's very helpful.


Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:

AP Power Card?


There isn't an Action Point card at this time. If that's something people would really like to have, let me know and I'll see if we can get it added.



Another loss in functionality.   Please fix.


 


Nov 9, 2010 -- 5:17PM, WotC_Trevor wrote:

Background benefit isn’t showing?


The background I chose was a pretty simple one, and it gave me a +2 to my arcana skill, which was just added into the skills section.



Another loss in functionality.  The background needs to be printed on the character sheet.


As a high priority, please get the character sheet to be at least as functional as the current one.  We seem to be taking several step backwards in functionality.
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