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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2010 - 7:55PM
#61
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I would be happy with 100, I could deal with 50... but only 20?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!?!
At 100 characters, assuming 200 kb/character (twice the size mine are running), 40k subscribers each using all of their storage space... that works out to ~800 GB of total storage. Just barely more than 1 gmail account, less than a single yahoo account (which are free). It also works out to 20 MB storage per customer, so still not much. Sure 100 would be enough for my use in general, but it's still absurdly low for technical reasons. If it has nothing to do with technical reasons and more to do with worrying about account sharing, than all I have to say to WotC is this: Figure out how to solve your problems without hurting the paying customer.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2010 - 7:57PM
#62
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yall YOU ALREADY HAVE ALL YOUR PCS ON YOUR CPU. you can have 20 loaded on the website at a time but you arent losing the data, its not like when they went in and deleted items from the old cb or something. and when you can save them (soon) it wont matter at all. it makes no difference how many you can save, since you already have them saved, and once you can save new ones to your pc (soon), there wont be any reason to even keep them on the website at all
http://frothsof4e.blogspot.com
http://community.wizards.com/retrogamingvtgroup
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2010 - 7:59PM
#63
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Date Joined:
Jan 25, 2009
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yall YOU ALREADY HAVE ALL YOUR PCS ON YOUR CPU. you can have 20 loaded on the website at a time but you arent losing the data, its not like when they went in and deleted items from the old cb or something. and when you can save them (soon) it wont matter at all
Yes, I could load less than 30% of the PCs on my computer to the online builder... but what would that accomplish? There's already a builder on my computer that handles those just fine, and if I make any changes to them while online they're stuck there until an undisclosed time.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2010 - 8:04PM
#64
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yall YOU ALREADY HAVE ALL YOUR PCS ON YOUR CPU. you can have 20 loaded on the website at a time but you arent losing the data, its not like when they went in and deleted items from the old cb or something. and when you can save them (soon) it wont matter at all
Yes, I could load less than 30% of the PCs on my computer to the online builder... but what would that accomplish? There's already a builder on my computer that handles those just fine, and if I make any changes to them while online they're stuck there until an undisclosed time.
And how many of these characters have you recently changed? How recent were these changes? A month? Three months? Longer?
And let's not forget that there are creative ways to save the new CB characters to your computer.
Why Mechanics-Alignment Integration is Bad
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so why even play a fighter if you can play the paladin the exact same way behaviorally and get added power to boot. "Paladin" is about accepting better game-enhancing mechanics at the price of more rigid in game behavior.
Really? So it goes something like this?
Fighter: "I want to be a paladin."
NPC: "Really?"
Fighter: "Yes."
NPC: "Very well." Starts reading from a holy book while still in-character "Do you accept having to choose and stick to the lawful good alignment, eventhough neither of us actually knows that it exists or what it is?"
Fighter: "I do."
NPC: "Do you reject good game balance because you accidentally rolled a high Charisma?"
Fighter: "What?"
NPC: "I don't know what it means either."
Fighter: "Oh. Umm, ok I do."
NPC: "In the name of all that is metagamey and broken, accept these better game enhancing mechanics."
Fighter: "These what?"
NPC: "Just get out there and try to fulfill a million different people's notion of good while not violating and part of any of them."
So the system is designed such that every single hit needs to be described to avoid confusion? Here's a scenario. The players are nudists, everybody in the world are nudists, it's not weird, it's totally normal in this land. They are naked and they fight drakes taking damage throughout, but healing up with surges. Later they meet the guy who raised the drakes.
Part 1: I didn't describe any of the hits. What does he see?
Part 2: Lets say I described the drakes as biting the players, yet they healed up. What does he see?
D20 Modern Toon PC Race.
Mecha Pilot's Skill Challenge Emporium.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2010 - 8:05PM
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yall YOU ALREADY HAVE ALL YOUR PCS ON YOUR CPU. you can have 20 loaded on the website at a time but you arent losing the data, its not like when they went in and deleted items from the old cb or something. and when you can save them (soon) it wont matter at all
Yes, I could load less than 30% of the PCs on my computer to the online builder... but what would that accomplish? There's already a builder on my computer that handles those just fine, and if I make any changes to them while online they're stuck there until an undisclosed time.
you said it, i mean if thats the case why even use the new one at all? i get that some of yall have tons of pcs, but what are you waiting to load 100 on at a time to get a dark sun power or something? using 20 pcs at a time with your others saved (and able to switch out for one of the other 20 at any time) or on the old cb doesnt seem like a big deal. importing them probably takes two seconds. i dont even see why you need to store any unless you are adding esentials to all of them and even then soon you can save your new pcs. given that, i dont see any reason they should have people save 100 online, i mean youre gonna back them up anyways the second they allow it. when that happens ill only have pcs on there im currently working on and working on 20 at a time seems very reasonable imo
http://frothsof4e.blogspot.com
http://community.wizards.com/retrogamingvtgroup
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2010 - 8:08PM
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I shouldn't do this, but I want to help you guys out there to understand. I could write a script in about 10 minutes that automates the new Character Builder and then creates a new level 20 character. I could run this on a number of machines (10? 20?) and let it go overnight creating, say, one character every 10 seconds. Math quiz: after how many hours will I fill 1TB of space? 10TB? 40TB?  Twenty characters seems incredibly low, and I would tend to agree, but we can monitor average usage and ramp it up as needed. We just have to protect ourselves (and the service you depend on) from DDOS and other types of attacks.
Paolo Marcucci
Producer
Dungeon & Dragons Insider
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2010 - 8:08PM
#67
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Date Joined:
Apr 14, 2009
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Just curious, how many of you have more than 20 *active* characters that you play all the time or expect to play at a convention? It's really foreign to me given my 4 characters, but it seems to me that there is a reason for a limit, and that is that if it were unlimited they would simply fill up with characters endlessly.
The thing that really gets at me about the new Character Builder is that it is moving backwards, planning to move forwards in the future. Theoretically, a large amount of the DDi userbase could have upwards of 10GB of characters.
Going into my DDi Folder, the first 20 characters I have in there equal up to 2.53MB. The entire folder, consisting of 85 characters is 10.8MB. As someone mentioned before, you can get e-mail accounts for free that have a greater storage capacity.
And as far as active characters is concerned, I really don't think it matters. I'm currently about to enter a campaign in the near future for Dark Sun [The updates seemed to have alluded me for the last couple of months  ] and I have made around 7 characters for that campaign alone, and I will continue to make characters with different race and class and other customization options until I find that one that I like. I will not go back and delete those previous editions of the characters either because they are still valuable for a future campaign or a build change or perhaps my character dies and these builds will take its place.
Point being, 20 isn't too low. It's unacceptable. Anything less than 75 is unacceptable in my opinion. I want unlimited. At the very least is should allow for every Build / Race / Class combinations.
The only way I'd accept something in the 100 range is if they increased the number by ~35 with each new book that adds a build, class, race or something.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2010 - 8:09PM
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I shouldn't do this, but I want to help you guys out there to understand.
I could write a script in about 10 minutes that automates the new Character Builder and then creates a new level 20 character. I could run this on a number of machines (10? 20?) and let it go overnight creating, say, one character every 10 seconds.
Math quiz: after how many hours will I fill 1TB of space? 10TB? 40TB?
Twenty characters seems incredibly low, and I would tend to agree, but we can monitor average usage and ramp it up as needed. We just have to protect ourselves (and the service you depend on) from DDOS and other types of attacks.
plus we will be able to save them to our own pcs! also im curious if i was right that it only takes a couple of seconds to import a pc in
http://frothsof4e.blogspot.com
http://community.wizards.com/retrogamingvtgroup
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2010 - 8:11PM
#69
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Hell you could reward joining DDi, add a character slot a week of membership, do something other then 20 static slots. I'm also flat out not paying for kilobytes of space on top of my subscription, I've been vocally for this until the number 20 was mentioned, I'm forgiving but gouging me for money for miniscule amounts of drive space is not a way to get a happy customer.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2010 - 8:11PM
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It's unacceptable. Anything less than 75 is unacceptable in my opinion. I want unlimited. At the very least is should allow for every Build / Race / Class combinations.
The only way I'd accept something in the 100 range is if they increased the number by ~35 with each new book that adds a build, class, race or something.
draco, you already have this, your pcs are saved on your cpu. as many as your heart desires. and they will have pcs able to be saved soon so you wont even need to use their site for storage at all, you can only save 20 to the site but would you rather have them saved to wizards site or to your hard drive? honestly
http://frothsof4e.blogspot.com
http://community.wizards.com/retrogamingvtgroup
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