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2 years ago ::
Jan 05, 2011 - 8:45PM
#391
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Lol I remember when 4e came out they said that they would delete all bad comments about 4e. Having to make a statement like that should have been enough to let everyone know they do not care about their loyal paying customers who try to express their opinion on where their game is going. They only care about the next dollar and the next customer.
Ok, since I have to spoon feed it to you. (Which further proves my point about 4e fanboys) Where in my original post did I say they deleted anything? Where in this small paragraph above did I mention them doing anything with posts? Give up? Nowhere. I am talking about a statement they made. I never said anything about actually deleting. So your comments are still utterly and completely irrelevant, not that anyone is surprised.
And doing any kind of search, through who knows how many posts, in the first couple of months 4e was released would be much more trouble then your believing me is worth. I could care less. I can't convince the pope that god is not real, any more then I can convince a die hard fanboy like you that WoTC is shady. But your ignorance that is clearly displayed in your weak arguments, is more then enough evidence that they probably did make such a post, and you just didn't understand what they were actually saying if you indeed ever came across it.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 05, 2011 - 10:48PM
#392
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So your comments are still utterly and completely irrelevant, not that anyone is surprised.
Bold added to draw attention to what you said.
Where is this coming from? "Not that anyone is surprised"? Do you know Mudbunny? Do you somehow speak for the community as a whole and know how we feel about him?
Where's all this rage coming from? Is it worth it? Does it help?
And doing any kind of search, through who knows how many posts, in the first couple of months 4e was released would be much more trouble then your believing me is worth. I could care less.
Clearly you do care. 3 years later and you're still ranting about it.
I can't convince the pope that god is not real, any more then I can convince a die hard fanboy like you that WoTC is shady. But your ignorance that is clearly displayed in your weak arguments, is more then enough evidence that they probably did make such a post, and you just didn't understand what they were actually saying if you indeed ever came across it.
I call this "nerd flexing". Insult the perceived competition with the dread phrase "fanboy" and claim intellectual superiorty over an argument. Dude, take a hint: this doesn't read very well.
Want to know more about the history of D&D, especially how to play older editions of the game? Check out Crazy Monkey's "Tour through the editions":
http://community.wizards.com/crazymonkey/go/forum/view/133793/225799/Asylum_Play-by-Post
The current edition is BECMI, the most popular form of Basic D&D and the adventure is the classic Red Box quest to kill Bargle the evil magic user. Check it out, learn about the games roots, and enjoy the story as it unfolds.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 06, 2011 - 7:46AM
#393
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Date Joined:
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Lol I remember when 4e came out they said that they would delete all bad comments about 4e. Having to make a statement like that should have been enough to let everyone know they do not care about their loyal paying customers who try to express their opinion on where their game is going. They only care about the next dollar and the next customer.
Where in my original post did I say they deleted anything? Where in this small paragraph above did I mention them doing anything with posts? Give up? Nowhere. I am talking about a statement they made.
So your proof that they hate the customers is that they said they would do something and then never actually followed through?? That makes even less sense than the conversations I have with my half-asleep 3 year old daughter.
And doing any kind of search, through who knows how many posts, in the first couple of months 4e was released would be much more trouble then your believing me is worth.
shrug
Your choice. But when you make as bold a statement as that, are you really surprised that someone asked you to provide proof?
(Note that from here on, you is used in the general sense, not the specific.)
These forums are discussion boards, not echo chambers (despite the fervent wishes of some people), so when you post something, people will respond. Ad-hominem attacks against the people who question your point of view, as opposed to actually discussing the topic do not strengthen your point. Rather, they drive home the idea that your argument is without merit and can be quite safely ignored.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 06, 2011 - 11:01AM
#394
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Style75: Due to technical difficulty my thoughtful response to most of your comments are gone. Here is a watered down version. I just don't care. Especially when you make the same mistake mudbunny did in the middle of your response, and not pay attention to the very sentence you quote. Mudbunnys believing me being worthless was the main idea of that sentence, and what I was referring to when I said I don't care. Your comment about 3 years is miss placed, and wrong anyway. I don't care, I just made a side comment about something I remember and mudbunny went on a personal crusade.
You should also look up rage, this is not it. Closer to contempt. Read on for why.
Mudbunny: I am not attacking you for questioning my point of view. I am not attacking you at all. You keep doing the same thing over and over again. In your last post you said something about my "proof that they hate their customers". That again is a clear display that you make things up, misunderstand ideas conveyed via message board posts, and are "questioning my point of view" on emotion alone. I never said they hated anybody. That is a creation of your imagination derived from the idea that I somehow am your enemy. The way you "question my point of view" reminds me of religious fanatics who say that people who are pro choice hate children and want to kill everyones kids.
I say your comments are worthless because when the first thing you say (write) is a complete fabrication, how can you be taken seriously? How can I have a discussion with someone who claims I say something that I didn't? To continue the discussion would be trying to prove a point I do not even want to make, because it is not mine. Instead I have to break down (spoon feed) what I actually said and try to deliver it to you in a way you might be receptive (Here comes the airplane *airplane noises*).
I said they made a statement, you went on and on about how they never deleted comments. I was talking about the statement, you were talking about something else. Your believing me is not worth me searching around for a 3 year old post. That is just a fact of life, sorry. I said they do not care about loyal customer base, you said that I am trying to prove they hate their customers. I see your comments as worthless because they have nothing to do with what I am actually talking about.
Only because you brought your daughter into this will I respond to that statement at length.
mudbunny: "So your proof that they hate the customers is that they said they would do something and then never actually followed through?? That makes even less sense than the conversations I have with my half-asleep 3 year old daughter."
Again, your worrying about proof of something I was never trying to "prove". I never said they hate anybody. The main idea is that they made a statement which showed a complete understanding and preparation for the negative backlash from the "old school" (not sure what to call it) loyal customer base. Meaning from the 80's to early 2000's customer base. They knew there would be a whole lot of people who hate the WoW formula for DnD, but they were banking on the fact that using MMO lingo (controller, striker, tank, etc.) and a "powers" system not unlike most MMO's would bring in a larger customer base. Not caring that a large portion of loyal customers would basically quit and not buy it. Sound business model (if it works), but poor display of loyalty to the people who have been buying products for 20 years. If we wanted MMO crap, we could play an MMO.
Let me also draw your attention to the point of this ORIGINAL post. Some guy wanting an apology for their not caring about him and their current customer base. That is the ORIGINAL post of this thread. My point is that he is 3 years behind the times, and just now figuring it out. You want proof of crap, he drew up a nice big letter. Read it, and argue with him about how he hates children and wants to kill everyones kids.
p.s. You should never bring your children into a discussion or argument. That should go without saying. And if you think that your 3 year old makes more sense then I do during her half asleep conversations, it is probably because that is your level of conversational understanding.
p.p.s. You did leave yourself wide open for that one. =]
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2 years ago ::
Jan 09, 2011 - 2:44PM
#395
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SIGNED
Was away at a rented house over xmas to New Year's break. Not only did the house have no internet access, but even the Verizon mifi that we brought to try to provide access wouldn't work. So there we were, no internet, no character builder.
Some of us don't like relying on "the cloud." Never know when it will be a sunny day!
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2 years ago ::
Jan 10, 2011 - 3:11AM
#396
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May 27, 2009
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signed
online cb would be ok IF it would run on any widely used mobile system. but without android/iOS thats not the case.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 12, 2011 - 6:37PM
#397
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Jul 23, 2008
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I've been a subscriber since 2008 (you know, when they plastered the back page of every book with that ad for DDI). I was promised digital Dungeon and Dragon magazines, a character generator, a virtual tabletop, and a character visualizer. Almost three years later and I've now got, what, one of those promises fulfilled?
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2 years ago ::
Jan 12, 2011 - 7:39PM
#398
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It seems we lost the magazines too. They are going to separate smaller articles and won't be compiled at the end of the month.
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2 years ago ::
Jan 13, 2011 - 1:36PM
#399
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Jan 26, 2009
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It seems we lost the magazines too. They are going to separate smaller articles and won't be compiled at the end of the month.
Where did they say they will no longer release the entire magazine for Dungeon and Dragon to DDI subscribers at the end of each month?
I know there was a change to how articles are released, but I didn't see it stated anywhere that the entire magazines would no longer be available at the end of each month....
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2 years ago ::
Jan 13, 2011 - 2:01PM
#400
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Mar 20, 2001
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If you've not found it yet it is in the most popular thread today (popular thread unpopular decision). Also in Bill's Ampersand article he slips it in, in the last paragraph of the D&D RPG Product Release Updates section. Finally, I wanted to let you know that we’re making a change to the way we handle D&D Insider content. Subscriber data informs us that the vast majority of you consume our articles individually, when they are posted, as opposed to downloading the monthly compilations. So, starting this month, we’re just providing the articles. There won’t be any more monthly downloadable compilations. This is not a reduction in content, just a reduction in service and a clarification of presentation and putting the emphasis where the majority of you are using it. Corrections and updates to articles which used to appear only in the compilations will now be made to the individual articles a few weeks after the original posting.
Bold added to high light the point, text added to reflect the truth.
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