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3 years ago  ::  Nov 02, 2010 - 2:10PM #1
dbmeboy
Date Joined: Jan 25, 2009
Posts: 779
To Whom It May Concern:

I feel that you owe us, your paying customers, a public apology for the way you have treated us in the last few months.  Specifically, the way that you have lied to and/or misled your customers since you first announced the delay of the September DDI update.  Here are three specific instances where we were at least misled if not directly lied to, listed starting with the most recent:

1. Paolo said on the forums that the coming online tools would supplement the existing tools.  Instead, we find that there will be a new character builder that will replace the old character builder.  Not only that, but it strictly loses functionality since it will not be usable offline.  "Supplement" and "replace" are mutually exclusive actions.  "Supplement" is defined as "to complete, add to, or extend."  Replacing an existing tool with a less functional version does not represent adding anything.

2. When the September/October update was finally worked out, Paolo and Trevor said: "We are now back in the groove and ready to keep out [sic] monthly update schedule."  Today, being the first Tuesday in November would be the normal monthly update, and no update.  Additionally, the news is that no update is coming, but instead a new tool replacing the old tool.  They knew when they posted that there would not be any more updates for the Character Builder or Adventure Tools (which has not been updated since August and still has no announced date for being fixed), but they still said that they were ready to keep the schedule.  Trevor said in a different post: "we are back on schedule to provide members with our regular content updates."  Again, I see neither a regular content update nor being on schedule.

3. The first two times the September/October update was delayed, the reason given was that Dark Sun and Essentials content were being added.  It is now clear that the reason was actually working on the web-based tools.  I don't have much else to say on this one, it seems to me like you were lying to string along customers, but I cannot know your motivations.  All I know is that it was a lie.

I am not complaining about the development of online tools in general, I am sure they will be very useful.  My complaint is that not only did you withold information about what was coming, the information you gave us was not true.  Please apologize for the lies and misinformation.

EDIT with addendum from pg 18:

Addendum to letter:

No amount of apologizing or otherwise  resolving differences will get me to resubscribe with only a 20  character limit.  I just checked and saw that I could get about 15 (out  of 66) of my characters onto a floppy disk.  I could email 70,000 of  them to my (free) gmail account and not fill the space.  I could store  approximately 5 million more on my current free hard drive space.  This  makes it even harder to believe that anyone could consider it an  "update."

EDIT: Another addition for WotC's consideration:
You should be careful with how you advertise the new builder.  In Today's (11/5) Ampersand the following comment is made:

There are five things I really, really like about the new Character Builder.


  1. It’s ultimately portable. I can use it on any computer or computer-like device, wherever I am.


This is undeniably a false statement without further clarification (which is not present in that article).  The list of computer or computer-like devices that cannot run the new CB from what we've been told so far includes: any computer running linux, iPhones, iPod Touch, iPad, android phones, andriod tablets.  That's without even being ridiculous about interpreting it (strictly speaking something like the Kindle is a computer-like device, but I'm willing to grant that it would be silly to think he meant to include that).  There are a significant number of commonly used computers that will not work with the new CB, and the statement should have been more clear/clarified in the article advertising the product, not via searching through the forums.
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This is a modified version of an email I sent to customer service.  If any representative of WotC would like to discuss with me how these statements were or were not lies, I would be open to that.  If you are not a WotC representative, you have no more insight into what they were or were not trying to do with those statements than I do.  I'd be glad to debate those points in other threads, but that's not my goal here.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 02, 2010 - 2:13PM #2
apitch85
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2010
Posts: 117
Signed, not that it will matter.

Nov 2, 2010 -- 4:40PM, PaoloM wrote:

Of course what you guys say matters!  But there are some things - like the offline access option - that are not possible, sorry.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 02, 2010 - 2:21PM #3
cmdluke
Date Joined: Sep 5, 2007
Posts: 546
signed.

I am not a current subscriber, but I have subscribed in the past. I also have purchased many 4e books that I have been proud of owning. I was planning to resubscribe as soon as Dark Sun content was added to the current Charactre Builder.

with this news and the way the paying customers have been treated/lied to, I will not be a future subscriber, nor will I be purchasing any more books.

thank you.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 02, 2010 - 2:27PM #4
Duskweaver
Date Joined: Jun 9, 2008
Posts: 3,633
Signed. Thirded fourthed. Whatever.

Dark Sun and Essentials really reinvigorated my enthusiasm for 4e D&D. But today's announcement that the offline CB is effectively dead and will never be updated with DS or Essentials material (despite official assurances) completely killed that enthusiasm.

I'm going to have a serious think over the next day or so about whether I want to ever give WotC another penny of my money. I feel like I've been seriously misled over the past couple of months. I gave WotC the benefit of the doubt and actually let my annual subscription renew in early October, taking it on trust that the CB would be updated with DS and Essentials stuff eventually and that the 'new tools' would, in fact, be new tools. That was what was promised. I gave WotC a significant chunk of money based on what now turns out to have been a lie.

People who know me know that I'm usually defending WotC. I have been, if not quite a 'fanboy', at least cautiously optimistic about almost everything WotC has done. Today's announcement has killed that, too.

I'm going to stop now, because otherwise this will just turn into an obscenity-laden tirade.

I am really, really angry.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 02, 2010 - 2:34PM #5
Darth_Jerrod
Date Joined: Jul 6, 2007
Posts: 1,174
signed for what it is worth
"I sense your fear... It flows from you like a mighty river."
Darth Jerrod too Kyrr Starhopper
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 02, 2010 - 2:36PM #6
semifamous
Date Joined: May 24, 2009
Posts: 48
Signed.

Of course, I'm still frustrated that my DMG from 2008 says that I "can use D&DI to play D&D over the Internet, bringing friends scattered across the country or the world back together around a virtual gaming table."

No, I can't, you liars.

Quit lying.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 02, 2010 - 2:38PM #7
CormacMor
Date Joined: Feb 17, 2009
Posts: 10
Signed... Without going into a rant, I think this new change may pretty much be a kill shot in the foot of 4E...
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 02, 2010 - 2:39PM #8
excalainen
Date Joined: Feb 10, 2009
Posts: 1,032
Signed. Good bye DDI.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 02, 2010 - 2:43PM #9
FuriousGreg
Date Joined: Aug 25, 2010
Posts: 34
Signed, though I'm sure the'll just ignore it and figure once the "shock" wears off everything will go back to normal and money will roll in hand over fist. It won't be my money though.
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 02, 2010 - 2:45PM #10
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Nov 2, 2010 -- 2:10PM, dbmeboy wrote:

To Whom It May Concern:

I feel that you owe us, your paying customers, a public apology for the way you have treated us in the last few months. 



Just this part alone is good enough. We don't need to argue the details. I would love an apology.

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