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3 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2010 - 3:51PM #31
AlsoAnima
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2009
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@CrowScape

Just because a concept exists does not mean it can be applied to humans in any meaningful way. A person can be no more meaningfully lawful or chaotic than they can be meaningfully gravity or light. e.e

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2010 - 3:53PM #32
Eisenritter
Date Joined: Oct 16, 2009
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Screw this.  Good redeems its own, and Evil devours itself.  There is no law or chaos, and paladins are no longer welcome.  I'm sick of this crap. Yell
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3 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2010 - 3:59PM #33
CrowScape
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Oct 22, 2010 -- 3:51PM, AlsoAnima wrote:

@CrowScape

Just because a concept exists does not mean it can be applied to humans in any meaningful way. A person can be no more meaningfully lawful or chaotic than they can be meaningfully gravity or light. e.e



In other words, people can't weigh more or less, or be lighter or darker? :P

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2010 - 4:07PM #34
AlsoAnima
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Oct 22, 2010 -- 3:59PM, CrowScape wrote:

Oct 22, 2010 -- 3:51PM, AlsoAnima wrote:

@CrowScape

Just because a concept exists does not mean it can be applied to humans in any meaningful way. A person can be no more meaningfully lawful or chaotic than they can be meaningfully gravity or light. e.e



In other words, people can't weigh more or less, or be lighter or darker? :P


Are their gods that only accept people of certain weight and colours? Is that what you're suggesting we support?

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2010 - 4:10PM #35
CrowScape
Date Joined: Aug 30, 2010
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Oct 22, 2010 -- 4:07PM, AlsoAnima wrote:

Oct 22, 2010 -- 3:59PM, CrowScape wrote:

Oct 22, 2010 -- 3:51PM, AlsoAnima wrote:

@CrowScape

Just because a concept exists does not mean it can be applied to humans in any meaningful way. A person can be no more meaningfully lawful or chaotic than they can be meaningfully gravity or light. e.e



In other words, people can't weigh more or less, or be lighter or darker? :P


Are their gods that only accept people of certain weight and colours? Is that what you're suggesting we support?



Yes. The gods are racists.

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2010 - 4:14PM #36
AlsoAnima
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2009
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*drops whatever she was holding*

*is stunned(save ends).*

*Font of Life, make saving throw at beginning of turn*

*rolls an 8*

*free action, augmented adepts insight, +1d4+1 to saving throw*

*+3. Total 11.*

*double move: run*
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3 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2010 - 4:17PM #37
frothsof
Date Joined: Jun 4, 2010
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haha the op was really into it
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3 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2010 - 5:09PM #38
Danline
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Oct 22, 2010 -- 2:29PM, BlackKnight1239 wrote:

Considering they took out the whole mechanical falling part out, I could care less. It honestly doesn't matter, since nothing happens (mechanically) if the Sacadin decides to be CE 5 min into the session. 



If that happened, he'd lose his paladin powers until he atoned.  At least in my games.  He could also opt to become a fighter instead.

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2010 - 5:10PM #39
MechaPilot
Date Joined: Oct 5, 2007
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Oct 22, 2010 -- 5:09PM, Danline wrote:

Oct 22, 2010 -- 2:29PM, BlackKnight1239 wrote:

Considering they took out the whole mechanical falling part out, I could care less. It honestly doesn't matter, since nothing happens (mechanically) if the Sacadin decides to be CE 5 min into the session. 



If that happened, he'd lose his paladin powers until he atoned.  At least in my games.  He could also opt to become a fighter instead.




Not according to the cavalier.  The cavalier has no mechanical impact for changing alignment.  Thankfully.

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Mar 4, 2012 -- 5:04PM, MechaPilot wrote:

Mar 4, 2012 -- 3:46PM, Warrant wrote:

so why even play a fighter if you can play the paladin the exact same way behaviorally and get added power to boot. "Paladin" is about accepting better game-enhancing mechanics at the price of more rigid in game behavior.


Really?  So it goes something like this?

Fighter: "I want to be a paladin."
NPC: "Really?"
Fighter: "Yes."
NPC: "Very well."  Starts reading from a holy book while still in-character "Do you accept having to choose and stick to the lawful good alignment, eventhough neither of us actually knows that it exists or what it is?"
Fighter: "I do."
NPC: "Do you reject good game balance because you accidentally rolled a high Charisma?"
Fighter: "What?"
NPC: "I don't know what it means either."
Fighter: "Oh.  Umm, ok I do."
NPC: "In the name of all that is metagamey and broken, accept these better game enhancing mechanics."
Fighter: "These what?"
NPC: "Just get out there and try to fulfill a million different people's notion of good while not violating and part of any of them."


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Apr 16, 2012 -- 9:27PM, Frostball wrote:

So the system is designed such that every single hit needs to be described to avoid confusion?  Here's a scenario.  The players are nudists, everybody in the world are nudists, it's not weird, it's totally normal in this land.  They are naked and they fight drakes taking damage throughout, but healing up with surges.  Later they meet the guy who raised the drakes.

Part 1:  I didn't describe any of the hits.  What does he see?

Part 2:  Lets say I described the drakes as biting the players, yet they healed up.  What does he see?



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3 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2010 - 5:33PM #40
Danline
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At least in my games.  He could also opt to become a fighter instead.


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