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3 years ago  ::  Oct 20, 2010 - 11:19PM #21
AFossDDI
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There is a rule in the Monsters section of the Gamma World rule book (page 105) that makes note of the fact that a monster can turn their aura on or off with a Minor Action. Obviously by RAW, this doesn't give a PC the same ability, but it seems to me to be in about the same category as allowing Charging et al as combat maneuvers.

That said, I kind of enjoy the idea of a Pyrokinetic that's just on fire all the time.
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3 years ago  ::  Oct 20, 2010 - 11:34PM #22
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Every desert is Flambe, and all the drinks are hot.
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3 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2010 - 5:16AM #23
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Oct 20, 2010 -- 11:19PM, AFossDDI wrote:

There is a rule in the Monsters section of the Gamma World rule book (page 105) that makes note of the fact that a monster can turn their aura on or off with a Minor Action. Obviously by RAW, this doesn't give a PC the same ability, but it seems to me to be in about the same category as allowing Charging et al as combat maneuvers.

That said, I kind of enjoy the idea of a Pyrokinetic that's just on fire all the time.




My DM just made me roll up my character, and I am a Pyrokinetic; Mind Breaker. I have a horse that I can't touch, I mean out of battle I can't be close to anyone or they start to burn. My character is mainly ranged anyway so i don't care about it in battle, but when trying to interact with people it's frustrating.

Oct 20, 2010 -- 11:34PM, rampant wrote:

Every desert is Flambe, and all the drinks are hot.




Actually that wouldn't happen, the aura is only creatures so no damage to anything else which is good because that would mean no weapons, artifacts or anything else. Which would make eating and drinking a pain if not impossible.

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2010 - 8:31AM #24
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Oct 19, 2010 -- 12:04PM, borghe wrote:

I've gone through the rules a few times and feel that anytime they say "creatures" they are talking about enemies. If they are referring to party members they specifically say "allies" including "you are not an ally". At least I can't find anything in the rules that specifically states that creatures include allies. There are plenty of burst or blast powers that likewise state "creatures" but some don't make sense if creatures was meant to include allies as well.



Well the 4e rules are pretty specific, allies are allies, enemies are enemies are and creatures are anyone of those.  In other words if a power only targets enemies it will say exactly that.

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2010 - 8:56AM #25
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I'd say throw this question out onto the Gamma World Rules forum

Can Pyrokenetic Origin players disable their Fiery Aura like other creatures (page 105 for rules for Aura for creatures).  

Personally if critters can do it, so can PCs.
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3 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2010 - 10:01AM #26
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Oct 21, 2010 -- 8:56AM, greyseer wrote:

I'd say throw this question out onto the Gamma World Rules forum

Can Pyrokenetic Origin players disable their Fiery Aura like other creatures (page 105 for rules for Aura for creatures).  

Personally if critters can do it, so can PCs.


You'd have to house-rule it, because it's unclear. In my opinion, I think it's something pyros just have to deal with. Mutations aren't all good. Plants have fire vulnerability, and one of the other origins has a –1 to speed. So, IMO, if you get one of those origins, you have to learn how to deal with the drawbacks. (Or just figure out a way to die quickly and get a new character.)

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2010 - 2:19PM #27
Tony_Vargas
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Captain technicality to the rescue, again...

Fiery Aura says "Whenever a creature ends its turn adjacent to you," you burn it.

Turns only happen in combat, when there's no initiative counts, there are no turns being started or ended, so people can stand next to you, no problem.  Out of combat, you should be able to interact with people normally.  Maybe the Fiery Aura only happens in the tense situations like combat - an adrenal thing?  For RP purposes, you might occassionally burn someone out of combat when you're startled or nervous or something.

You and a mount share a space, so your mount is not technically 'adjacent' to you (be careful with this one, because a swarm can also occupy your space!  you'll probably want to argue that's 'adjacent'), and a mount does not have it's own initiative count or turn, it ends its movement at the end of /your/ turn, not its turn.  So, again, the 'ends its turn' technicality might let you ride a mount, even in combat (though, really, read the entry for the horse, you don't ever want to ride in combat).
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3 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2010 - 3:39PM #28
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Oct 21, 2010 -- 10:01AM, battles14 wrote:



(Or just figure out a way to die quickly and get a new character.)




Attacking your team mates always works plus if your lucky you can take one of them out with you. Innocent

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2010 - 3:46PM #29
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Oct 21, 2010 -- 3:39PM, Badu777 wrote:

Attacking your team mates always works plus if your lucky you can take one of them out with you. Innocent


Amen. I'm used to LFR, where you have to ask your ally to attack them.  Screw that. I hate babies and bathwater equally.*


*The post does not necessary reflect my opinion of babies. No babies were harmed in the writing of this post.

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3 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2010 - 3:57PM #30
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Oct 21, 2010 -- 3:46PM, battles14 wrote:



*The post does not necessary reflect my opinion of babies. No babies were harmed in the writing of this post.




I however can NEVER give such an assurance.



(Towards puppies anyways, I just look at babies and laugh at there stupidity, HA HA stupid baby.)




CHUCK NORRIS : I have hacked into to this post to let you know that Cool!!!BADU777!!!Cool doesn't hate puppies or laugh at babies, This was just a prank from me and I apologize. 




(There Badu I said I was sorry please don't hurt me.)





(Yes I just said I was better than Chuck Norris if I don't post anything in a while it means he killed me. And if I post something later it is because I have come back from the dead as a zombie.)
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