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3 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2010 - 4:35AM #11
Kalex_the_Omen
Date Joined: Apr 1, 2001
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That was the only book on the 2011 schedule I was even vaguely interested in buying.  It would be nice if we could get some kind of official explanation about this.

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2010 - 6:03AM #12
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I'll put in a vote for disappointing product removal.

However everything I've seen this year was as well except MP2. I'm still waiting on DP2 so my paladin character can have some new options, and be as effective as a MP1 fighter.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2010 - 8:32AM #13
mboss77
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I wonder if that means the 2nd Monster Vault follow up for the Nentir Vale is gone too?
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2010 - 8:39AM #14
Kalex_the_Omen
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Sep 29, 2010 -- 8:32AM, mboss77 wrote:

I wonder if that means the 2nd Monster Vault follow up for the Nentir Vale is gone too?




Where was that announced?  I never saw it in the catalog.  Maybe they are combining the two into a proper setting release for the summer?  That would be nice, but I hate waiting the extra 6 months.

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Concerning Player Rules Bias Show

Mar 7, 2012 -- 5:19AM, Kalex_the_Omen wrote:

Gaining victory through rules bias is a hollow victory and they know it.


Concerning "Default" Rules Show

Oct 11, 2012 -- 2:23AM, Kalex_the_Omen wrote:

The argument goes, that some idiot at the table might claim that because there is a "default" that is the only true way to play D&D.  An idiotic misconception that should be quite easy to disprove just by reading the rules, coming to these forums, or sending a quick note off to Customer Support and sharing the inevitable response with the group.  BTW, I'm not just talking about Next when I say this.  Of course, D&D has always been this way since at least the late 70's when I began playing.


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3 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2010 - 3:44PM #15
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Sep 29, 2010 -- 8:39AM, Kalex_the_Omen wrote:

Sep 29, 2010 -- 8:32AM, mboss77 wrote:

I wonder if that means the 2nd Monster Vault follow up for the Nentir Vale is gone too?




Where was that announced?  I never saw it in the catalog.  Maybe they are combining the two into a proper setting release for the summer?  That would be nice, but I hate waiting the extra 6 months.

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Right HERE!  Scroll down to Second Quarter releases.  That and so much more is (was?) promised!

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2010 - 4:03PM #16
Kalex_the_Omen
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Aw man, you're right!  Damn there are so many things on that list I would buy and so far the only thing (remaining) in the Product Catalog is Heroes of Shadow.  :-(

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Mar 7, 2012 -- 5:19AM, Kalex_the_Omen wrote:

Gaining victory through rules bias is a hollow victory and they know it.


Concerning "Default" Rules Show

Oct 11, 2012 -- 2:23AM, Kalex_the_Omen wrote:

The argument goes, that some idiot at the table might claim that because there is a "default" that is the only true way to play D&D.  An idiotic misconception that should be quite easy to disprove just by reading the rules, coming to these forums, or sending a quick note off to Customer Support and sharing the inevitable response with the group.  BTW, I'm not just talking about Next when I say this.  Of course, D&D has always been this way since at least the late 70's when I began playing.


My First D&D - 1979 D&D Basic Set (6th Printing) Show

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2010 - 4:23PM #17
YoungRocketSamurai
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I guess everything that was actually interesting in the product release line was dumped in favour of Essentials.

The Nentir Vale Gazeteer was the item I was most eagerly anticipating.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 30, 2010 - 3:59PM #18
christianjohnson
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I too was jazzed about the Nentir Vale book and am disappointed that it has vanished.  Nentir Vale reminds me of the old "Known World."  It has a great feel and I was looking forward to it being presented as a product.

I hope that they at least release that material in Dungeon.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 30, 2010 - 4:31PM #19
thaX
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Everyone is assuming that it is automatically gone. The thing isn't supposed to come out until the third quarter, for Pete's sake. So it dropped off the schedule. That doesn't mean it won't be put back on later.

Terms you should know...

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Kit Build - A class build that is self sustaining and has mechanical differences than the normal scale. Started in Essentials. Most are call their own terms, though the Base Class should be said in front of their own terms (Like Assassin/Executioner)

Power Points - A mechanic that was wedged into the PHB3 classes (with the exception of the Monk) from the previous editions. This time, they are used to augment At Wills to be Encounters, thus eliminating the need to choose powers past 4th level.

Mage Builds - Kit builds that are schools of magic for the Wizard. A call back to the previous editions powering up of the wizard. (Wizard/Necromancer, for example) Unlike the previous kit builds, Wizards simply lose their Scribe Rituals feature and most likely still can choose powers from any build, unlike the Kit Builds.

Parcel System - A treasure distribution method that keeps adventurers poor while forcing/advising the DM to get wish lists from players. The version 2.0 rolls for treasure instead of making a list, and is incomplete because of the lack of clarity about magic item rarity.


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Mar 31, 2011 -- 10:46AM, wrecan wrote:

They will Essentialize the Essentials classes, otherwise known as Essentials2.

The new sub-sub-classes will be:

    * Magician.  A subsubclass of Mage, the magician has two implements, wand and hat, one familiar (rabbit) and series of basic tricks.
    * Crook.  A subsubclass of Thief, the Crook can only use a shiv, which allows him to use his only power... Shank.
    * Angry Vicar, a subsubclass of warpriest, the angry vicar has two attacks -- Shame and Lecture.
    * Hitter.  A subsubclass of Slayer, the Hitter hits things.
    * Gatherer.  A subsubclass of Hunter, it doesn't actually do anything, but pick up the stuff other players might leave behind.

Future Essentials2 classes include the Security Guard (Sentinel2), the Hexknife (Hexblade2), the Webelos (Scout2), the Gallant (Cavalier2) and the Goofus (Knight2).

These will all be detailed in the box set called Heroes of the Futile Marketing.


(Though what they should really release tomorrow is the Essentialized version of the Witchalok!)


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3 years ago  ::  Sep 30, 2010 - 6:25PM #20
mboss77
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It was announced for first quarter.  when did they change it to 3rd?
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