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Sticky: A Beginner's Primer to CharOp.
3 years ago  ::  Sep 18, 2010 - 2:02AM #11
Ignis_Fatuus
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Sep 18, 2010 -- 12:36AM, haphazarduk wrote:

The hypocrisy!

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I say: sticky!

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 18, 2010 - 3:52AM #12
haphazarduk
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Sep 18, 2010 -- 2:02AM, Ignis_Fatuus wrote:

Sep 18, 2010 -- 12:36AM, haphazarduk wrote:

The hypocrisy!

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I say: sticky!




There's more than a hint of dogma in certain parts of the CharOp boards. I've seen it a number of times; "You can't do that - it's ridiculous" because some build doesn't follow the 'accepted' approach.

I welcome the OP's position (and my comment wasn't aimed in that direction) - I think it's what CharOp should be all about -  inclusive, constructive in its criticism and more holistic than it currently is e.g. damage, damage, damage.

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 18, 2010 - 4:35AM #13
Ignis_Fatuus
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Sep 18, 2010 -- 3:52AM, haphazarduk wrote:

There's more than a hint of dogma in certain parts of the CharOp boards. I've seen it a number of times; "You can't do that - it's ridiculous" because some build doesn't follow the 'accepted' approach.

I welcome the OP's position (and my comment wasn't aimed in that direction) - I think it's what CharOp should be all about -  inclusive, constructive in its criticism and more holistic than it currently is e.g. damage, damage, damage.

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I agree that those tendencies can be quite annoying (especially if somebody has stipulated from the beginning inside which boundaries optimization is sought). I do think, however, that that would be all the more reason to sticky this post!

The problem with using the word hypocrisy (IMHO) is that it implies that the OP (or perhaps one of those reacting favourably) is known for acting against the spirit of what was said...

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 18, 2010 - 4:41AM #14
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I would welcome the post being stickied. Does that answer both points? Wink

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 18, 2010 - 5:02AM #15
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Sep 18, 2010 -- 4:41AM, haphazarduk wrote:

I would welcome the post being stickied. Does that answer both points?

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It does!

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 18, 2010 - 6:48AM #16
Keithric
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Good stuff!

I put in a stickying request. Feel free to load even more good stuff here if ya want
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 18, 2010 - 6:52AM #17
Ignis_Fatuus
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Maybe  you could also include a "Just because we can, doesn't mean you have to" where it is explained that the optimal way is not the only correct way of building a character.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 18, 2010 - 6:54AM #18
Herid_Fel
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Blah. As useful as the information is, I think we're getting too many stickied threads in this forum. With the screen layout I have now, I need to page down to actually see discussion threads (as opposed to the Community banner header and the currently stickied threads). This looks like it'll be a thread which new people might read once, and then never again.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 18, 2010 - 7:25AM #19
Keithric
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Yeah... I thought about not putting it in, since there were already 3. Then I ran aground trying to figure out why the Q&A sticky was here instead of Q&A and whether the 3.5 redirect was still needed.

Ended up deciding it was easy to listen to the posters in the thread and let you guys decide what's best.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 18, 2010 - 7:45AM #20
langeweile
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Good thread.
Although if we want to sticky it, we probably should also add a few other explanationed (Stormwind Fallacy, how to post builds, basic assumption / consensus, etc).

And I don't see a problem with stickies - we only have three, and as Keithric says, the 3.5 can probably go away now.
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