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3 years ago  ::  Sep 14, 2010 - 6:52PM #1
Mock
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Man, they've rearranged the calendar again. Now the Assassin's article has been bumped to Friday. The two articles I'm interested keep have both been pushed back the day before release, IIRC (Genasi and Essentials: Assassin). Not to mention the now-absent Essentials Sorcerer, but now I'm not even sure if that was on there or I made it up. 

Argh. Very frustrating.  
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 14, 2010 - 8:08PM #2
AsmodeusLore
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This might be a good time to remind everyone that the calendar is only a list ofgoals. Not promises.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 15, 2010 - 2:07AM #3
Kartesh
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Sep 14, 2010 -- 8:08PM, AsmodeusLore wrote:

This might be a good time to remind everyone that the calendar is only a list ofgoals. Not promises.



As much as i ounderstand that, it still leaves a bad taste. Even a list of goals can be kept more up to date. If you know a projekt you are working on will delay for two additional days, you might want to give that informations out to those waiting for it in time so they dont get disapointed. Normally you know about such delays some time before the release date, so why not change the calendar acordingly?

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 15, 2010 - 4:51AM #4
Mock
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Sep 14, 2010 -- 8:08PM, AsmodeusLore wrote:

This might be a good time to remind everyone that the calendar is only a list ofgoals. Not promises.




Yeah, I know. Thanks.

Really, though, I don't care. I posted this comment in another thread on the Essentials Assassin, but absolutely nothing about DDI frustrates me more than when they move one of the few articles I'd actually like to read. They could disable the character builder and I wouldn't be as irritated about it. It's not rational, and reminders about living documents and goals-not-promises don't really make any difference. 

So anyway, yes, I am fully and completely aware that the dates on their calendar don't actually mean anything except "this might be nice." I'm disappointed, and I feel like complaining anyway.

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 15, 2010 - 11:11AM #5
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Sep 14, 2010 -- 8:08PM, AsmodeusLore wrote:

This might be a good time to remind everyone that the calendar is only a list ofgoals. Not promises.




It wouldn't be if this were still a print magazine.

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 15, 2010 - 11:32AM #6
Myztek
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Sep 14, 2010 -- 8:08PM, AsmodeusLore wrote:

This might be a good time to remind everyone that the calendar is only a list ofgoals. Not promises.


I call BS. 

If you put up a calendar of events, you're telling the audience, "Look what we INTEND to put out on these days."

They may not use the word promise, but when you create an expectation in people, you should meet it.

For the most part, WotC could put in extra work for 2 weeks, get ahead of schedule and then get in the habbit of completing their articles two weeks before publish date.  Then, if something is a bit late in design or editing, tyhe lateness never hits customers.

The 'just in time' model that is leading to CONSTANT pushes, delays and rushes with poor editing is just evidence that the system is not being handled with the care necessary to create a professional product.  Instead, we're getting the high school book report - late, poorly edited and sometimes not at all.

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 15, 2010 - 11:41AM #7
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Sep 15, 2010 -- 11:32AM, Myztek wrote:

Sep 14, 2010 -- 8:08PM, AsmodeusLore wrote:

This might be a good time to remind everyone that the calendar is only a list ofgoals. Not promises.


I call BS. 

If you put up a calendar of events, you're telling the audience, "Look what we INTEND to put out on these days."

They may not use the word promise, but when you create an expectation in people, you should meet it.

For the most part, WotC could put in extra work for 2 weeks, get ahead of schedule and then get in the habbit of completing their articles two weeks before publish date.  Then, if something is a bit late in design or editing, tyhe lateness never hits customers.

The 'just in time' model that is leading to CONSTANT pushes, delays and rushes with poor editing is just evidence that the system is not being handled with the care necessary to create a professional product.  Instead, we're getting the high school book report - late, poorly edited and sometimes not at all.


Emphasis mine.

I would like to respectfully disagree.

You need to look at the individual articles as previews, and the compiled magazine as the finished product.  If you look at it that way, then you realize that they are pretty much doing exactly what you are saying.  They are producing the articles weeks ahead of the time when they must be ready, and giving themselves a buffer to make edits, correcdtions, and finish up anything that got delayed.

The final product, the compiled magazine, has never been late.

Finally, the reason I posted that reminder was specifically so that people did not start to expect an article to be released on the day that it appears on the calendar.  If you are expecting it to, then you have an expectation that is not aligned with what the company has been telling you.  It has been stated repeatedly that the calendar is not a promise, and you should not be surprised if something slips.

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3 years ago  ::  Sep 15, 2010 - 11:49AM #8
Riusaldregan
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What about the expectation that the Tools will be updated on the first Tuesday of each month? Is that an unreasonable expectation? Or at least once per month, which will not be the case this month? I'm paying my Insider subscription chiefly for the tools and articles, the former of which will not be updated this month and the latter of which are reduced in number/content and constantly shifted around. What exactly am I paying for this month? Why shouldn't I just ask for my money back?

Why wasn't the Character Builder updated with Psionic Power and the DSCS this month and Essentials next month? Why cram them both into a single update with disastrous results?
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 15, 2010 - 11:51AM #9
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There's a difference between one article being rescheduled a week before it was supposed to go live and several articles being delayed mere hours before they were going to go live (after one had even been hyped), plus major updates to tools being pushed farther and farther back.  Compile that with a diminishing quantity and quality of articles and no new tools or debut content.  You have to see why people are getting frusterated.
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3 years ago  ::  Sep 15, 2010 - 12:16PM #10
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Sep 15, 2010 -- 11:51AM, embertiger wrote:

There's a difference between one article being rescheduled a week before it was supposed to go live and several articles being delayed mere hours before they were going to go live (after one had even been hyped), plus major updates to tools being pushed farther and farther back.  Compile that with a diminishing quantity and quality of articles and no new tools or debut content.  You have to see why people are getting frusterated.




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