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3 years ago ::
Aug 19, 2010 - 1:22AM
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I thought the ideas of Dead Gods is pretty cool! I'm going to try to include them - or at least their cults - in the gams I DM. I think they could really add some fun spice to the games! That said... Am I the only one who thinks that Dr. House is Laeris' mortal avatar?
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3 years ago ::
Aug 19, 2010 - 4:59AM
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There was so much that could have been done with this article that were completely skipped. What about a Dead God profile for Amoth? For He-Who-Was? These basically created entirely new members of the pantheon, only ones that don't matter since they're dead, who haven't been mentioned in the Dawn War at all, and thus are only sourced here. While I appreciate new options, I'd rather see material on worshipping the Dead Gods already introduced, than new Dead Gods I don't particularly care about. Now, if Laeris and Aurum became integrated into the flavour material in a Divine Power 2, then perhaps I might start to warm up to this article. Also, the use of the term "spells" and "spellcasting" really irks me. ARCANE characters use spells, DIVINE characters use Prayers. Get it right, please? • As a side note, I'm back from my island vacation now, so I should be able to start OP'ing these article discussions again. But thanks to those who did it in my absence
A great man once said "If WotC put out boxes full of free money there'd still be people complaining about how it's folded." – Boraxe
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3 years ago ::
Aug 19, 2010 - 6:02AM
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May 18, 2002
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Haven't finished reading it all yet, but seems pretty cool. Shades of the Vigilant One, the Mistshadow, and the Dark Maiden anyone? Hooray! I like the feat for Nusemnee. Others would have been good.
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3 years ago ::
Aug 19, 2010 - 6:23AM
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May 11, 2005
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Marhandir: I considered adding some of the dead gods that were mentioned in DP, but in the end didn't include them. He Who Was, due to his nature, was not suitable to detail, and I was not moved much by Amoth. I thought about including Khala, but she already had some fair amount of background (as did Lakal), and she fell away when I wrote down Segawehn (another deity who fell in war), as I preferred using something new over rehashing information already known. So, unfortunately, none of the already mentioned dead gods made it in. Had I had unlimited pages, I would have added them as well, but I already went over the word count. Feel free to encourage Wizards to use these dead gods in DP2, though
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3 years ago ::
Aug 19, 2010 - 8:42AM
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Nov 15, 2004
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Gomeztoo, as one of the head LFR writers, I'm surprised you didn't add any of the many recently dead FR gods (maybe in a sidebar) like Helm and Mystra. That would have been cool.
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3 years ago ::
Aug 19, 2010 - 6:08PM
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Marhandir: I considered adding some of the dead gods that were mentioned in DP, but in the end didn't include them. He Who Was, due to his nature, was not suitable to detail, and I was not moved much by Amoth. I thought about including Khala, but she already had some fair amount of background (as did Lakal), and she fell away when I wrote down Segawehn (another deity who fell in war), as I preferred using something new over rehashing information already known. So, unfortunately, none of the already mentioned dead gods made it in. Had I had unlimited pages, I would have added them as well, but I already went over the word count. Feel free to encourage Wizards to use these dead gods in DP2, though 
Thanks for the response, Gomeztoo aka Pierre von Rooden. I understand the reasoning, though I would have liked to see feats related to the dead gods who -were- already mentioned. That said, perhaps they warrant a separate article, considering they weren't mentioned in this one.
Considering that anything that makes it into Dragon is part of the core story of the relevant setting, I should hope that these gods and goddesses here get at least sidebar passing mentions in Divine Power 2. I will press WotC about it as well, as we approach a possibility for more divine options – especially considering the needs of Runepriests and Essentials Clerics and Paladins.
A great man once said "If WotC put out boxes full of free money there'd still be people complaining about how it's folded." – Boraxe
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3 years ago ::
Aug 19, 2010 - 6:42PM
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Apr 23, 2005
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I hadn't really thought about it until I read this article this morning, but many of the known dead gods are actually evil (Nerull, Khala, Tuern), with a smattering of unaligned ones (Io, Lakal, Amoth), at least based on their descriptions. I think that the only good dead god previously revealed would be He Who Was and I'm not completely sure that he was that good. Amoth and Io have already been covered in player-orientated articles and supplements and Lakal seems pretty quom-specific. Making up new good and unaligned gods (especially good ones) seems like a good idea IMO.
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3 years ago ::
Aug 19, 2010 - 10:26PM
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Good article. I have a lot of dead gods in my homebrewed world. So of course, I will use it for my world. Also, it's a good option that could be used in the Dark Sun setting. That is if one wanted to use divine power in that world.
I tried counting to one backwards, but I didn't know where to start.
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3 years ago ::
Aug 20, 2010 - 11:54AM
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I thought the article was nifty. Like others, I would have liked to seen previously discussed dead gods rather than completely new ones. Even if the fluff would have been a retelling (rehashing if you're feeling uncharitable), I would have appreciated mechanics for worshipping these known dead gods than for completely new ones.
One thing I didn't like though was the new concept that Nerull wasn't always a god. I feel like it doesn't mesh well with past lore about him. Plus it sort of turns the position of the God of Death into a revolving door in the Core world.
I guess you can make an arguement that it's metaphysically significant that Gods of Death, well, die more frequently than gods of other portfolios, but I would have liked to see that be addressed. Because you didn't address it, it comes off as accidentally cheapening the mantle of all the gods who ever were or are the god of death.
Planes Wanderer
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3 years ago ::
Aug 20, 2010 - 1:15PM
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Hrm. Interesting article, though useful to me only for the crunch.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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