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Aug 13, 2010 -- 9:50PM, TiranElKanul wrote:

I don't know a whole lot about Wardens, I just want to comment and say "Bravo" for trying on the Breach Warden PP, and working towards a way to really make its features work for you.  I loved reading the article it was introduced in, fluff-wise, but didn't see any immediate ways to make it crunchy as well.  I'm really interested in watching this build develop. 

Thanks!  Ya I'm really stoked i found this... was a stretch from my original ideas but I think it has a lot of unique potential to shine as a worthy defender.  I Appreciate your feedback!

So guys not much feedback so far on a self damaging strategy... MC DB needs help!  Stupid work.

Aug 15, 2010 -- 7:09AM, MC-DrowBane wrote:

Aug 13, 2010 -- 9:50PM, TiranElKanul wrote:

I don't know a whole lot about Wardens, I just want to comment and say "Bravo" for trying on the Breach Warden PP, and working towards a way to really make its features work for you.  I loved reading the article it was introduced in, fluff-wise, but didn't see any immediate ways to make it crunchy as well.  I'm really interested in watching this build develop. 

Thanks!  Ya I'm really stoked i found this... was a stretch from my original ideas but I think it has a lot of unique potential to shine as a worthy defender.  I Appreciate your feedback!

So guys not much feedback so far on a self damaging strategy... MC DB needs help!  Stupid work.

I do not know very much about damaging yourself, but you might be able to refer to some of the builds/threads concerning using the Dragonborn breath racial ability.  Some of the strategies involve, I believe,  hitting yourself with the breath in order to recharge it (I believe).  Now you are not a Dragonborn, but perhaps some of the people who have explored the whole concept know of other ways to legally damage yourself (aka not "I stab myself") in a way to craft your elemental properties you can use.

Aug 15, 2010 -- 8:31PM, AlienFromBeyond wrote:

Couldn't you potentially abuse the Delbanian Vambraces just like Dragonborn do with Ancient Soul?

Wow this is perfect!  Thanks man!  I would lose out on Iron Armbands of Power tho... hrmmm... this merits further thought.  Great suggestion!

Aug 16, 2010 -- 4:04PM, tui wrote:

How are you getting Slow on OAs at level 1?  You're not taking Sudden Roots until 2nd level.  Am I missing something?

Also, how do you get multiple second winds in a given encounter?  Is that epic stuff? (I don't have a clue about anything epic-related.)  Or is there some way to get multiple second winds pre-epic?

Well well look at the big brain on tui!  Just kidding, good catch man.  Changes have been made.  As far as multiple second winds go... in Heroic you are unfortunately stuck with 1 just like the average Joe... paragon however you will be rocking 3 given Warden powers and items.

Aug 16, 2010 -- 8:33PM, obtusehobbit wrote:

MC Drowbane how are you getting 3 Second Winds an Encounter in Paragon, or do you Mean 1 an Encounter with 2 dailies to recharge the Second Wind?

I just want to be clear on that as there is a very real difference in use there.

My apologies.  Yes to clarify.  Your 2ns Second Wing will first be available to you at 10th level via Spiritual Rejuvenation.  This is a 10th level Warden Daily utility power.

Your third second wind will be available at 21st level via the feat Epic Recovery.

Technically you could propably get darkside armor of Enduring Health +5 before then for 425k.  Still waiting on someone to send me proper gold /per level protocol for char optimization.

Sorry for confusion.