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3 years ago ::
Jul 26, 2010 - 5:57AM
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@Foxface:
Your eyes are better than mine. Please separate out for me, in those two designer quotes you posted, where it says that these new class designs are what will be used going forward. I'm having a hard time finding that in either quote, and that interpretation doesn't jibe with anything else that's been said (like Essentials being a "10 and done" set.)
You might want to go back to the source to double-check the antecedent that pronouns like "They" (at the start of the second one) are referring to, because I'm pretty sure the "They" in question aren't "these new classes".
@silent_stone:
Well said.
...and that's the news from Lake 4th Edition, where the Gnomes are strong, the Half-Orcs are good-looking, and all the PCs are above average.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 26, 2010 - 5:58AM
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Well, since all have been encouraged to say something.
Frankly I'm over reading page after page of nerd rage. Especially over a product you don't have, and one that you don't have to use.
What makes me shake my head the most, is when the nerd rage takes the form of "I know better then people who do this for a living, and I question all the choices they have made."
Having an opinion is one thing, everyone does. How you express your opinion is the difference. It's like people who first tell me they can't draw, and the offer advice on what I should do in my comics. My response is always polite and I end that conversation quickly.
But I'm always left thinking, if you are so awesome at knowing what to do, why aren't you doing it?
It's very easy to criticize someone else's work, more so if you can't even begin to try and do the same thing yourself. To quote from Ratatouille:
"In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so."
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3 years ago ::
Jul 26, 2010 - 6:00AM
#33
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Ummm it is over a half an hour now icedcrow and I am still waiting for your thread on Essentials...when are you gonna post it...sheesh get a guy all excited for it and leave him hanging...
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3 years ago ::
Jul 26, 2010 - 6:15AM
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See how versitile 4e is?
| Nerd rage |
Nerd 1 - at will |
| ESSENTIALS ARE THE NEW 4.5 !!!!! |
At least one too many times  Nerd, Forum |
| Immediate reaction - Ranged forum |
| Trigger: Something seriously happened |
| Target:one or more creatures who disagree |
| Attack:Charisma - 8 vs will |
| Hit: the target sees valitity in your points and agrees with you |
| Miss: the target is annoyed |
| Effect: none what so ever |
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3 years ago ::
Jul 26, 2010 - 6:27AM
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See how versitile 4e is?
| Nerd rage |
Nerd 1 - at will |
| ESSENTIALS ARE THE NEW 4.5 !!!!! |
| At least one too many times Nerd, Forum |
| Immediate reaction - Ranged forum |
| Trigger: Something seriously happened |
| Target:one or more creatures who disagree |
| Attack:Charisma - 8 vs will |
| Hit: the target sees valitity in your points and agrees with you |
| Miss: the target is annoyed |
| Effect: none what so ever |
And this is why I love nerds, all the rage aside.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 26, 2010 - 6:34AM
#36
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I am looking forward to the Essential line, and what I have read until now is very promising.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 26, 2010 - 6:39AM
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| Nerd rage (Essentials 4.5 version) |
Nerd 1 - basic |
| Anger;Wrath;CAPS LOCK |
| At least one too many times Nerd, Forum |
| Immediate reaction - Ranged forum |
| Trigger: Something happens that causes you to be ill-tempered |
| Target:all enemies in burst |
| Attack: Cha vs WIL |
| Hit: the target is stunned by your rage and can take no action until they either A) see that they were wrong or B) make a saving throw with a -10 penalty |
| Miss: the target is dazed by your intellectually superior logic |
| Effect: High Blood Pressure |
NERD-RAGE is a powerful condition that only the true masters of D&D can hope to achieve. As a basic first level ESSENTIALS power, it is granted to any class that has the ability to do the following:
Get red in the face when someone assets an opinion different from theirs
Scream in rage when WoTC changes rules or keywords around to something displeasing
When their superior intellect is challenged by opposing logic, type in ALL CAPS to prove a point
Able to flip tables to show their true masterful power
Able to invent logic and misread quotes and explanations to further their cause
Able to see into the future and predict the downfall of society and gaming as we know it
Those choosing the NERD RAGE power are able to pick the NERD-MASTER-SCHOLAR paragon path at level 11. The NERD-MASTER-SCHOLAR is an Essentials class and can only be taken by someone who seriously hates Essentials. We mean it. Seriously.
A sneak peek at NERD-MASTER-SCHOLAR (for those of you who have the INSIDER knowledge):
Nerd Master Scholar is a neat paragon path that will define how all classes are going to be made from now on. We just inked a deal with Blackwater to go to each D&D gamer's house and personally shred their old rule books because they are no longer to be used in the game.
Those not running Essentials will be pimp slapped.
The Nerd-Master-Scholar (NMS) as a class has a powerful feature that lets them know what's going to happen ahead of time flawlessly. To represent this, the player running the NMS may ask the DM to see his / her notes at any time, as well as maps, DM keys, etc...
This is because the NMS as a character can always predict the future. Failure to adhere to these rules allows the NMS to go into Advanced Nerd Rage, which we cannot describe here, but it's a safe bet that your DM will not want to experience this.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 26, 2010 - 7:15AM
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Are any non-Nerds raging at the moment?
There'd be a lot less of these essential threads if either
A) People stopped reacting to the smallest pieces of information
B) WOTC would put out concrete rules information on how essential classes work in relation to core classes.
Having said that, I already want to make a knight and i've only seen a small preview.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 26, 2010 - 8:43AM
#39
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Date Joined:
Nov 18, 2008
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I have read the essentials atricles, and as far as the knight is concerned, I expect to see alot of half-orc knights running, er charging, around a battlefield.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 26, 2010 - 9:54AM
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Date Joined:
Sep 15, 2006
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I have signed my son and myself up for a Intro D&D session at Gencon next week. I really hope that they will be using Essentials classes for these sessions. It would be nice to test drive the Essentials products.
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