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2 years ago  ::  Dec 04, 2010 - 1:10PM #61
AlphatheGreat
Date Joined: Mar 22, 2008
Posts: 1,547
Added Super-Scrag as a variant of Mr. Smith
Added A Safe Haven
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 13, 2010 - 9:32AM #62
AlphatheGreat
Date Joined: Mar 22, 2008
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Added The Inescapable Fisherman 2.0.
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2 years ago  ::  Jan 30, 2011 - 11:54AM #63
lordduskblade
Date Joined: Aug 17, 2007
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I would like to point out that Smith received a revamp, so his NADs are virtually the same as Super-Scrag's (he has -1 Will because he chose Ceaseless Guardian, basically). Also (outside of Opportunity Attacks, where Scrag enjoys a +2 edge to hit), their accuracy is the same, because while Smith is wielding a Hammer, he is also a Kensei, which cancels out. Scrag should be out-damaging Smith pretty easily, though.
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2 years ago  ::  Jan 30, 2011 - 2:14PM #64
Algarad
Date Joined: Jan 30, 2009
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I am wondering why no one has mentioned Riposte Strike here.  The power should still generate a lose/lose situation, similar to the old white lotus master riposte, for the DM.  Is there some build that takes advantage of it? 

Also, when using hybrid builds, remember to pay attention to the way hit points are added.  Ceratin combinations of classes produce low HPs.  An example would be a Warlock|Paladin.  This would produce medium or striker like, Hit Points instead of defender hit points.  One hybrid build that would avoid this is Warden|Rogue.  The combination of extreme HP from Warden and medium HP from Rogue produces typical defender HP.  Also Wardens have several ways to produce CA, which is useful if you can't get frostcheese from your DM.

Just an idea, I have started a build but not finished it, so I haven't run into reasons why this wouldn't work.  I also don't know if it would qualify as an ultimate defender or just an interesting build.
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2 years ago  ::  Jan 30, 2011 - 2:20PM #65
Veleria
Date Joined: Mar 19, 2010
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Riposte strike is great for damage dealing but has a few issues. First it limits your weapon selection to those of a rogue. Second and more important is that it gives a disincentive for an enemy to stay with you so you might get more damage but with the goal of defending your group, you give the enemy reason to ignore you.

Ultimate defenders are not the highest damage defenders, they are the ones who fill the combat role of defender to it's optimum. 
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2 years ago  ::  Jan 30, 2011 - 2:37PM #66
Algarad
Date Joined: Jan 30, 2009
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True, but it would still be interesting...wonder where the build would belong.

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 16, 2011 - 8:16PM #67
pippenainteasy
Date Joined: Jul 15, 2011
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Two Annointed Knights could take on and beat Tiamat lol, albeit it would take about 35 turns since their damage output is so low. But their defenses are ridiculous.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 28, 2011 - 10:16AM #68
AlphatheGreat
Date Joined: Mar 22, 2008
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As you may have noticed, it's been a long time since I added any new builds to the Ultimate Defenders.  I'm sure there have been more produced, I just don't know what they are!

So, I'm open to suggestions for good candidates.  These can be new archetypes, or simply strong variants of existing Ultimate Defenders that are different enough to warrant their own mention.

I will review candidates and run them by trusted friends. 
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 28, 2011 - 10:36AM #69
GelatinousOctahedron
Date Joined: Jun 30, 2008
Posts: 5,740

Here is my set hammers to stun build.  A human hybird fighter/paladin mc barbarian adroit explorer reincarnate champion.  There are some variants at the link.

Focuses on recharging single target stunning powers, which turn into domination powers in epic.  By 23 has an average of about 8.5 stuns each encounter.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 28, 2011 - 11:05AM #70
Borris_Bear
Date Joined: May 10, 2009
Posts: 111
I'd like to second Set Hammers to Stun. It is a solid defender that mixes in absurdly brutal condition applications. It also has a theme going that is different then other defenders posted. It stuns so hard it even stuns in percentages!
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